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Yes! my brothers deceased wife's (cancer) 2023 sister is called Jane but goes by the name Joan and ironically lives in Scarborough.

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While looking for eliminating possible surnames/maiden names theories of interest-
 
James Cockin witness to the George and Sarah marriage Selby 1815 - is it possible he was could have been a resident of Selby as the time to find his near family history connections pre and post the 1815 George marriage or was he regular church/abbey witness of marriages.



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Jane Hood wife of John Hood burial 1803 Selby aged 65 = born 1738


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A name of interest to look at for Jane Hood above and/or as a separate illegitimate mother of George Hood b 1786

Jane Cockin baptised 8th Jan 1736 father Christopher Cockin of Fishlake Yorkshire.

Need to find of this Jane married someone else



Being Cockin witness to George and Sarah marriage 1815 Selby

Cockin's stem Doncaster area




 

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Thank you Dave

I think we looked at the rather poor witness signatures (from the microfilm scan) on here, of that 1778 John Hood, Marriage, at London, after finding the Scarborough, Yorkshire, 1778 Marriage Licence.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=812140.msg6724668#msg6724668

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Bear in mind there were two John Hood, marriages at Scarborough around the mid 18th Century period, who were not the same John Hood.

Added and then Updated:-

1759
John Hood of Scarborough 37 years & upwards married Elizabeth Hood of Scarborough, 21 years and upwards, a Spinster.

1763
The other John Hood 25 yrs & upwards, married Elizabeth Leppington 26 yrs & upwards and the Licence I got also confirmed she was a Widow (no mention of widow, nor their ages in the Marriage Register, so Licences must always be seen! If they married by Licence. )

I think you had already worked out that Elizabeth Spencer must have first married John Leppington in 1756 at Scarborough, Yorkshire, to agree with the first child Elizabeth of Charles & Maudland Turner (nee Hood) Register information, baptised in 1795 at Selby, Yorkshire, to link the ancestry of Maudland Hood to John Spencer of Scarborough, Mariner.

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If James Hood didn't know who his Grandmother was, he could use surnames of his known Aunts and Uncles, or Nieces and Nephews and this practice, even mixed with surnames of your parentage and your Wife's parentage is done.

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In the Selby Register, they didn't seem to know, or the information was withheld, as to who Jane Hood was, buried 15th August 1803, aged 65 years.

I am also looking at the possibility (not completed yet) that the Surnames of COOK and PEARSON were Cousins or descendants from the Grandmother of James HOOD born Selby and obviously his Brothers and Sisters:- William HOOD, John HOOD, George HOOD and the late Richard HOOD and his three sisters Sarah, Mary and Ellen HOOD the last four names who died before Marriage.

Some Surname middle naming sequences can be also be in a parallel line of descent, from an ancestor Mother and we have a COCKING (witness) at the 1815 Marriage at Selby.

After finding in an 1881 Census by chance for COWICK (usually in Snaith) but bordering and in Goole, with a William COCKIN, 74, born Stainforth, with a George COOK, 52, Gardener.

This made think of children born to Father COCKIN(G) and the Mother Maiden Surname COOK and vice versa.

I applied for a number of £3 Birth Certificate examples.

In the nearby Registration District of Goole (when the large selection of Birth Certificate variables were downloaded), there were obviously two COOK couples where the Mother was Maiden Surname COCKIN and at Goole, having children.

1865
Arthur Son of William COOK and Emma COCKING, Docks Labourer, at Old Goole.

1865
John Singleton COOK, Son of John COOK and Martha COCKIN, Seaman, (Merchant Service).

I am not quite sure whether I have the earliest Births yet of the COOK = COCKIN(G) and not checked vice versa.

William Cockin

William COCKIN, born Stainforth, Yorkshire, 10th January 1827, from a Masters and Mates Certificate.

Found two Births at West Stockwith and Registered Gainsborough:-
1854 Sarah Elizabeth COCKIN
1856 William COCKIN,
Father: William Cockin
Mother: Martha COCKIN formerly Martha PEARSON.

Also three more Births seemingly the same couple at Goole, Yorkshire:-
1858 John COCKIN (parentage confirmed)
1861 Charles COCKIN
1866 Charles Edward COCKING

In the Vessels Census:-
Martha COCKIN(G) [nee Pearson], was born Clayworth, Nottinghamshire (Notts).

1851Census
Martha Pearson, Head, U, 24, born Clayworth, Notts, was an Innkeeper at West Stockwith, East Retford, Notts. Registration District Gainsborough.

Updated from Certificate image now:-

1853, at Sisterton, County of Nottingham on 31st December, by Licence
William COCKING, full, Bachelor, Mariner, Goole, Father: John COCKING, Mariner.
Martha PEARSON, full, Spinster, West Stockwith, Father: William Pearson, Mariner.
Present (wits) Charles Pearson ; Ann Eliza Bramham.

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That witness is interesting, another 1868 Birth Certificate with Mother Maiden name Nancy Bramman and Father name Daniel COOK.

Also a Bramham in the GRO Index.

Martha Pearson married at Misterton, Nottinghamshire, near to the place where she was Innkeeper.

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The Cockin = Pearson, marriage is certainly before the Birth of Bernard PEARSON HOOD, at Scarborough to James HOOD and Sarah ARUNDEL.

Mark


Hi Mark,

Your thinking is sound slowly trying to find connections of surnames to James Hood children's middle name surnames if only to eliminate.

Elizabeth Spencer /Leppington & John Hood (death Selby 1819) had ! had at least 1 or maybe 2 George's born 1770's children who died.


     So - John Hood mariner of Scarborough wanted a son George and years later John Hood mariner of Scarborough turns up in Selby and a George Hood right age to be his son also highly probable
mother Jane Hood wife of John Hood mariner of Selby.

Were John and Jane Hood living over the brush and George was born illegitimate in her surname but never recorded.

(Possible Jane was from Gateshead as John Hood being a mariner docking there.)

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Glad I could help, Dave. So sad that your relative wouldn't return the original.
Peter

Just to let you know Peter- I've used your image of granddad on my Ancestry website tree.

Even the tiny original photo was not as good as your bigger image and means so much to my family.

Thanks again.

Dave

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Tried but failed:

Thanks all the same as it was a poor image I posted.

much appreciated

Dave

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I've thrown a bit of AI into my version, in order to increase the resolution so, although I've tried to keep to the original as much as possible, please bear in mind that he won't necessarily look exactly like himself . :-\
Peter

Thanks Peter, much appreciated  :)

Thats a brilliant restoration with resizing and just what I wanted, the original photo very was small ( see my reply to dublin1850)

Thanks again
Dave

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Hi dublin1850

I let a relative borrowed (only photo known of him) my original photo of granddad to copy it but refused to give it back to me years ago, I  came across a FH tree belonging to this relative with this photo of granddad a few weeks ago on the net, so I copied it as it was a public tree. The original photo was small in a silver frame (approx)  3" X 2 1/2"  and the head was cropped from a waist to head photo.


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Hi Folk,

I would be very grateful if someone could improve this small copy of my granddad and slightly enlarge it please. 

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This could be a link  ??? as timing

George Hood & Maudlin Spencer of Scarborough in the County of York 1731. (Father of John Hood)

John Spencer, Grocer, was John Hood's (<-of Scarborough) Landlord, c. 1790 to circa 1802.

In 1770 Thomas Fawthorpe of Selby, Cooper, also trained a Jno Spencer. Per Duty Paid on Apprentices.

Maudland (Family name) daughter of John Hood of Scarborough & Selby

George Hood b1786 would have started his apprenticeship or family taught in the cooper trade say 1800 to 1807

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Scraping the barrel here but one never knows.

Back to Sarah Hammond intent to marry a John Hood Middlesex London, but never did ? is a prime possible for child called George born illegitimate to this John Hood


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