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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Thursday 12 February 09 09:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Valerie,
I was right, Elizabeth and Wilhelmina were sister's.
And Elizabeth and Henry are buried next to Frank at St. Andrew's and Jesmond.
The inscriptions are ....

'429207 Flight Sergeant F Hutchinson Royal Australian Air Force 8th January 1945 aged 28. Husband of Joan, son of Thomas and of the late Wilhelmina who died 29th November 1964 aged 76.'

This is a Commonwealth War Grave of the RAAF, it is a white cross with the RAAF coat of arms engraved in it.
And to the immediatley to its left, a green marble/rock covered grave with a black headstone ( i think from memory)

'In loving memory of Elizabeth Lillias Leatherland died 18th February 1966 aged 75 and her dear husband Henry Leatherland died 1st October 1973 aged 79. RIP.

If you haven't seen them and you were interested.

Rich

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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Tuesday 10 February 09 19:38 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Valerie,
Ok so i'll try and say it so it makes sense,
I think the relationship is on the Leatherland side. Elizabeth and Wilhelmina ( Mina ) were sisters, and hwnce Mina was Diana's aunt. Now, Mina married Thomas Hutchinson ( they are my great grand parents ) They had 2 children, Frank and Ralph, Frank married Joan and Ralph married Elsie ( who are my grandparents). Joan and Elsie went to school together in Australia !
 So then, Frank was killed during the war but had a son a year previous to his death who is Ronald. Ralph and Elsie had 3 children including my father Frank ( named after Ralph's brother, so he 2 Franks make it confusing haha) This Frank is my father.
So as it works out, I think you have the same relationship to Bill and my father, which is second cousin, going on, Bill and Diana are cousins to Ralph and Elsie. I do remember my father teloing me he was second cousin to Bill and Diana's children.
You may or may not be aware, but I am pretty certain that Harry and Elizabeth are buried in The St Andrew's and Jesmond cemetry aswell, right next to Ralph's brother Frank !!!!
I visited the plots Jan 2008, the anniversary or Frank's death. Harry and Elizabeth are on the left hand side of Frank's Commonwealth War grave Sec. B. Cons. Grave 143.
From what I am told by one of Bill and Diana's children, a 3rd family member is buried with Harry and Elizabeth in the same plot but there is no mention on the headstone.
I think we have nutted it out, and so for our relationship, I am your newphew, either twice or thrice removed.
Cool !!
Rich




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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Friday 06 February 09 20:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Linda,
I sent you an email
Rich

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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Friday 06 February 09 19:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,
Well, i'll try and get this right and is to the best of my knowledge of my family tree.
, Ralph Hutchinson and his brother Frank.
Ralph was married to Elsie Sheppard - Turner ( she and the great artist 'Turner' are cousins !! ), and had my father Frank II.
Frank, who was killed accidently during WW2, was married to Joan, who since remarried but ad a son with Frank.
Both Ralph and Frank were born in Newcastle in I think around 1912 to Thomas and Wilhelmona.
Frank is buried in a Commonwealth War Grave in St. Andrew's and Jesmond, he was a Flight Sargent in 15 P Advanced Flying RAF. He was killed when his student crashed the areoplane.
How are you related, we will be on the same tree just a different branch.
 its great to see the interest on here, Woolsington Hall is a good place to errr, place to place memories, once you had been there, you never forgot it
Richard
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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Monday 17 November 08 10:56 GMT (UK)  »
Yep, thats was us moving in !!! Bill of sale should have been made to the Smith family. I was born and grew up in Australia, but as a boy, many times during my summer school holidays, I came to the Hall to work with my family on the farm with the sheep and cattle. I wish I did have pictures because I have very fond memories or the place, As a child the only picture I remember seeing was 1 on my grandfathers bedroom wall when it was covered in snow !!!
It was the most fantastic house and surrounding buildings etc and the best part was the gardens, the wall which surrounded it had the hot water pipes in it so that it kept awat frost and provided a 'warmer' environmant for the plants to grow in, I assume it would keep frost away aswell.
Its such a shame to read about all the propsed developments etc as government have knocked them all back, but it has meant that the entire place has gon eto ruin, the house has been boarded up, the garedns hardly exsist anymore as they are over grown etc and not much remains of the rest of the farm buildings.
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Northumberland / Re: Matthew Bell/ Salkeld/Woolsington Hall
« on: Tuesday 11 November 08 20:22 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I noticed you had a connection with Woolsington Hall !
My family were the last owners who lived there in the manor house and owned the surrounding lands.
I remember going there when I was a little boy, its was such an amazing place !
It was bought from my family by the then president of Newcastle United Football Club with plans to turn it into a training ground for the club however I think all this, amongst plans of a golf course and luxury hotel accomidation of late ,havd all fallen through due to its heritage grading and preservation !

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