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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Yorkshire Family Names
« on: Tuesday 20 March 12 14:05 GMT (UK)  »
Rachel,

Apologies, I've only just stumbled across this post. These Rodgers are my ancestors! Jonas Lister Rodgers & Elizabeth Ann (Hammill) are my GG Grandparents.

I have some info on www.martinjourdain.net. It's not that up to date and there may be some mistakes. I have more on www.ancestry.co.uk, which is more up to date, so if you have a subscription I can send you an invite to the tree (I think it's public anyway). Otherwise I can send you a .gedcom file.

Please feel free to contact me, I'll be happy to share what I have.

Regards,

Martin.


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Glamorganshire / Re: Prison Inmates c.1871
« on: Tuesday 23 June 09 20:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the replies!

Liz - He was born in Bath in 1815 (according to the 1881 census and his marriage certificate - though his death cert doesn't correlate). He listed his occupation as mathematician (ideas above his station I think!). He was married to Hannah Crump Oatway on 3rd August 1864 and they had one surviving child, also William, in 1867. I can find neither of them on the census either (see www.martinjourdain.net for details). He was a widower when he married but we are having difficulty tracking down the first marriage. It is thought (by my great Aunt who remembers talk of him being a 'black sheep') that William and Hannah had a child who died in infancy and they took on their neice (Charlotte (Lottie) Nurse) to ease the burden on Hannahs sister.

Thanks for the link to the census record Wendy - sadly the William Charles you found doesn't seem to be him (unless he lied). I wonder if he perhaps went to ground or exiled himself for a while. The newspaper cutting ends with the mayor stating that they "a warrant will be issued for his apprehension." indicating that he wasn't at the hearing and browsing the newspapers during the following month I find no mention of him.

I'll keep digging. Thanks for your help again!

Martin.

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Glamorganshire / Prison Inmates c.1871
« on: Tuesday 23 June 09 13:03 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if somebody could offer me some advice please!

My GGG Grandfather, William Charles Jordan, was convicted of fortune telling in Newport in March 1871 (he was arrested again in 1886 for the same offence). I have been unable to find any record of him on the 1871 census - would the fact that he was possibly in prison at the time of the census mean that he wouldn't have been recorded? I'm sure he would have been. If he was in jail at the time, does anybody know of any prison records for Cardiff (or Glamorgan) that are available? Not being local to Cardiff, I'm not even sure which prisons would have been open around then!

I have gained most of this info from http://newspapers.bl.uk/blcs which has just gone online and proved extremely useful - I highly recommend it! Two cuttings are attached.

Incidentally - WC Jordan would appear to be a bit of a fraud and a charlatan, but he still seemed to gain the trust of the Marquess of Bute - he was apparently a tutor to the 3rd Marquess' children and even helped design the ceiling of the Horoscope Room at Mount Stuart on the Isle of Bute after casting a horoscope for the Marquess.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated!

Martin.

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The Common Room / Re: Changing Babies Names!
« on: Monday 27 April 09 19:47 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the replies.

It does make sense that it's the same person, so I'll confirm with the Birth Certificate.

Thanks again!

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The Common Room / TB Deaths & Cremation
« on: Monday 27 April 09 14:58 BST (UK)  »
Does anybody know if it was common practice to cremate the victims of TB (for disease control purposes, perhaps)?

I have a father and son who both died of TB in 1916 and 1919. I have tracked down the buriel for the wife, but the husband is not buried with her, unlike other buriel records I have traced.

Thanks,

Martin.

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The Common Room / Changing Babies Names!
« on: Monday 27 April 09 14:42 BST (UK)  »
I have come accross something slightly odd! ???

On the 1901 census I have an Edith A Rodger who was just 4 days old at the time of the census.
On the 1911 census I have the same family (even down to the same address in Castleford) but there is a 10 year old daughter on there called Annie Lister Rodger.
I can find no records of an Edith Rodger for the relevant time periods on www.freebmd.org.uk, but I can find records for Annie Lister Rodger, right down to a marriage in 1925.

Is it possible that at the time of the census her parents hadn't decided on a name and registered her at a later date under the name of Annie Lister Rodger?

Any information would be gratefully appreciated and stop me losing even more hair!  ;)

Many thanks.

Martin.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Resources & Offers / Re: Wakefield District Burials - Castleford online images
« on: Friday 24 April 09 15:50 BST (UK)  »
This is an incredible resource. I've found three of my GG Grandparents in the Old Cemetry at Castleford. The fact that it includes grave numbers is a huge bonus. As I'm only a few miles away I'm going to pop over and see what condition the graves are in. Well done WMDC (that's one thing at least!).

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