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Devon / Re: SPRY - Brentor
« on: Thursday 08 May 25 17:38 BST (UK) »
Wow. There's plenty for me to have a go at there! Thanks very much to all for taking the time and making the effort to help. It's much appreciated.
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Devon / SPRY - Brentor
« on: Wednesday 07 May 25 19:54 BST (UK) »
Hi. I've been tracing back the male line of William Spry, 1854 - 1923 whose headstone is in the churchyard at Bere Alston. His grandaughter, Kate, was my grandmother.
I've found four of his ancestors including Richard Spry, 1704/5 - 1760 and his first wife Joan Fursman.
But that's where I've hit my brick wall. Apparently, the parish records held by St.Michael de Rupe church, Brentor dont go any further back and Ive found nothing on Ancestry.
As the present church dates back to 14th century, I'm presuming the records must be held elsewhere.
Any suggestions as to where to look, I'd be extremely grateful.
David.
I've found four of his ancestors including Richard Spry, 1704/5 - 1760 and his first wife Joan Fursman.
But that's where I've hit my brick wall. Apparently, the parish records held by St.Michael de Rupe church, Brentor dont go any further back and Ive found nothing on Ancestry.
As the present church dates back to 14th century, I'm presuming the records must be held elsewhere.
Any suggestions as to where to look, I'd be extremely grateful.
David.
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World War One / Re: Forthcoming visit to the Somme Battlefield. Advice please.
« on: Saturday 19 February 22 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Yet another update on our visit to the Somme battlefield, originally scheduled for July 2020:
At the risk of tempting fate, our visit is now booked for 12th to 17th July this year and our accomodation is in Aveluy, where my grandad was billeted in June 1916, only a couple of miles from the CWGC cemetery at Poziere where my gt.uncle is buried.
Two years ago, my research into my relatives' service on the Somme was brilliantly assisted by the late MaxD, whose passing I only learned of this week. I could not possibly have done without Max's boundless help. I know he gave his experience and assistance to many Rootschatters who will remember him with great fondness as I do.
I will report on our trip in due course.
Regards, David.
At the risk of tempting fate, our visit is now booked for 12th to 17th July this year and our accomodation is in Aveluy, where my grandad was billeted in June 1916, only a couple of miles from the CWGC cemetery at Poziere where my gt.uncle is buried.
Two years ago, my research into my relatives' service on the Somme was brilliantly assisted by the late MaxD, whose passing I only learned of this week. I could not possibly have done without Max's boundless help. I know he gave his experience and assistance to many Rootschatters who will remember him with great fondness as I do.
I will report on our trip in due course.
Regards, David.
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The Common Room / Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« on: Saturday 29 January 22 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Hanes. Wow, that's a brilliant find and it explains the move to no.6. It also gives a better idea of when she decided it would be prudent to call herself Smith seeing as there is no record of her ever marrying. Mind you, over the years, she took on a variety of identities. She was some girl.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
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The Common Room / Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« on: Saturday 29 January 22 15:35 GMT (UK) »Turns out she's still living in Leeds at No.6 Woodbine Place. On the '11 census she was at no.22 so she's moved down the street. This house (no.6) is the last house in the terrace and she has a visitor staying.Might the street have been renumbered ? My wife's abode in Cardiff was changed from 50 to 110 some time in the 1950s because a large private block on one side of the road had made opposite numberings far out of kilter.
Thanks Andrew. You make a good point, thanks
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The Common Room / Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« on: Friday 28 January 22 15:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Tonepad and ShaunJ.
So the enumerator has just crossed out what she wrote and put it in the accepted terminology.
I was taking the word 'occupied' as being meaning the property was occupied. But then, today's interpretations can be a country mile from what was intended a hundred years ago I suppose.
That's my excuse anyway.
Thanks again both of you.
So the enumerator has just crossed out what she wrote and put it in the accepted terminology.
I was taking the word 'occupied' as being meaning the property was occupied. But then, today's interpretations can be a country mile from what was intended a hundred years ago I suppose.
That's my excuse anyway.
Thanks again both of you.
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The Common Room / Re: 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« on: Friday 28 January 22 13:16 GMT (UK) »
ahha, Tony. You've got it.
The enumerator has missed out the "a" leaving the insinuation that the property was not used for living in.
So, basically, the property is not used for making a living ie boarding house, hotel, bakery, etc.
Is that right, Tony?
The enumerator has missed out the "a" leaving the insinuation that the property was not used for living in.
So, basically, the property is not used for making a living ie boarding house, hotel, bakery, etc.
Is that right, Tony?
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The Common Room / 1921 Census and Annie's back in town creating more confusion.
« on: Friday 28 January 22 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi all.
Well, I spent my £3.50 and downloaded the '21 census sheet for my infamous gtgrandma, Annie.
Turns out she's still living in Leeds at No.6 Woodbine Place. On the '11 census she was at no.22 so she's moved down the street. This house (no.6) is the last house in the terrace and she has a visitor staying.
Under 'employment' she has written for herself "householder" and her visitor "no occupation".
The enumerator has crossed out both and, underneath each, has written "not occupied for living".
Has anyone come across this or does anyone have a possible explanation as to what could possibly be going on.
Well, I spent my £3.50 and downloaded the '21 census sheet for my infamous gtgrandma, Annie.
Turns out she's still living in Leeds at No.6 Woodbine Place. On the '11 census she was at no.22 so she's moved down the street. This house (no.6) is the last house in the terrace and she has a visitor staying.
Under 'employment' she has written for herself "householder" and her visitor "no occupation".
The enumerator has crossed out both and, underneath each, has written "not occupied for living".
Has anyone come across this or does anyone have a possible explanation as to what could possibly be going on.
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The Common Room / Re: Recording of burials
« on: Thursday 04 November 21 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Good morning, Guy and thanks for your reply.
Yes, I've been working on the understanding that registration of a burial was a legal requirement.
As for burial at home, her son, the informant, had travelled to Leeds from Dumfries. He'd had an horrendous upbringing so I cant believe he'd take his mother back to Scotland and bury her in his garden. Taking her ashes back following cremation, as mentioned by Brian, would make more sense but I still ask myself why would he want her near to him. However, I've made assumptions before and usually been shot down so I could well be wrong here in which case, it would be the end of the search.
Thanks again.
David
Yes, I've been working on the understanding that registration of a burial was a legal requirement.
As for burial at home, her son, the informant, had travelled to Leeds from Dumfries. He'd had an horrendous upbringing so I cant believe he'd take his mother back to Scotland and bury her in his garden. Taking her ashes back following cremation, as mentioned by Brian, would make more sense but I still ask myself why would he want her near to him. However, I've made assumptions before and usually been shot down so I could well be wrong here in which case, it would be the end of the search.
Thanks again.
David