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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Tuesday 17 May 11 05:15 BST (UK)  »
Thanks BY,
I'll try the MMM
GMR

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Sunday 15 May 11 22:32 BST (UK)  »
Many Thanks BY,
I have managed to find the record of his mate certificate in 1893, so made some progress. He seems to have lived in both North Wales (Bangor/Menai Straits) and the Liverpool area. Do you know of any resources for North Wales Pilots?
Thanks agan for your lookup.
GMR

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Friday 13 May 11 07:29 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dave,
could you please look up Evan Richards in the "Liverpool Pilot Service. List of Pilots". He lived close to Liverpool and put "pilot" as his occupation in 1892. In other records he is a mariner, sailor or master mariner. He was born in about 1857. He was married in 1877 and his father's name was Richard Roberts - the family story is that there was confusion as their English was not great, and he changed his name... So it is possible that he was also known as Evan Roberts.
Thaks in advance for your help.
Gillian

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Devon Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Stonehouse, Devon - COTTELL Births during 1820s
« on: Tuesday 04 November 08 06:33 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks very much Chris...

it's going to take a while for me to enter that info into my tree  :)

The account of the battle for Mauritius was certainly an interesting window into Naval warfare two centuries ago.

Here are the details I found on James's death...

From National Archives Catalogue      
ADM  Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Division within ADM  Records of Accounting and Pay Departments
ADM 45  Navy Board, and Admiralty, Accountant General's Department: Officers' and Civilians' Effects Papers
ADM 45/15  Series 4, Nos. 501-750. Described at item level
 
Record Summary   
Scope and content   Number: 556
   James Cottell, Captain Royal Marines, who died: 30 April 1842. Notes on executor's application for money owed by the Royal Navy.
Covering dates   1842-1843
Availability   Open Document, Open Description, Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30 years
Held by   The National Archives, Kew

It seems unlikely to me that there would be more than one Captain James Cottell / Cottle in that time period. But I agree the Naval records would be good to access, they have some details on next of kin as well I believe.

I was checking the National Achives for references to Cottells and found several promising looking leads including evidence that we are not the first to research the Cottell family Tree... in Devon
http://www.devon.gov.uk/localstudies/
MATCH COTPED1871   . Pedigree of the Cottle family. 1871.
MATCH GRAADD1908   . Additional notes to W.H.Cottell's ms. on the Cottle family. 1908.
MATCH COTHIS1871   . A history of the Cotel, Cottell or Cottle family of the counties of Devon.... 1871.
MATCH COTCOT1908   . The Cotel, Cottell or Cottle family of the counties of Wilts, Somerset, Gloucester, Devon and Cornwall.... 1908.
 and Somerset   http://www.somerset.gov.uk/archives/
DD\X\CTL    PEDIGREES, ETC., OF THE COTTELL [OR COTTLE] FAMILY    12th century-20th century
DD\X\CTL/1    Cottle family tree of Radstock, Somerset and Wellington, New Zealand.

Some are several pages, one 2 "bundles" !! I'm thinking there is a lot of information there.... maybe related to our guys.  Some of this was researched by William Henry Cottell in 1871... have you heard of him?

Talk to you later

GMR



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Devon Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Stonehouse, Devon - COTTELL Births during 1820s
« on: Saturday 01 November 08 03:51 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks very much. It's interesting to see that James was a captain in 1818.

1851 census has Louisa Cottell born in Bedminster
Henry put down born in St Servan in France on censuses.

but Adelaide Elminstone Dorothea COTTELL put down Stonehouse as her birthplace in1851 census, unfortunately she died before the 1861 census.... I gather there was no sign of her in Stonehouse in 1828/9/30.  Maybe she was baptised in Bedminster??

gmr

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Devon Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Stonehouse, Devon - COTTELL Births during 1820s
« on: Wednesday 22 October 08 04:17 BST (UK)  »
I have Henry Cottell b1823 in my tree.

So I was pleased to see your request for info. as it gave me several leads  :)

According to the census records I have (1861, 1871, 1881, 1891) Henry was born in France. The 1881 census gives most detail... St Servan, France. This is adjacent to St Malo on the coast. I have not yet tried following up on this lead.

Henry married Elizabeth B Rowland (b 1825). She and daughter Matilda were living with her father Thomas Rowland in the 1851 census with her sister Matlida Rowland, (who married Arthur Patrick Cottell in 1852?) and Ellen Rowland in 19 Richmond Terrace, Bedminster. Elizabeth (Hill) Cottell was next door with 5 of her children, including Adelaide Pounsbery with James Pounsbery (9mths), and another grandson Arthur Cottell, aged 8 .. it is not clear who was the parent of Arthur.

Henry and Elizabeth had 7 children incuding Edwin Hill Cottell, so the Hill name went on for another generation.

I have not yet found Henry in the 1851 census

If you would like more information on Henry and his descendants please let me know.

In one of your posts you stated that Joseph Hall Cottell was James & Elizabeth's second child. I have
Elizabeth Cottell aged 27 in the 1841 census, b elsewhere and Maria Cottell aged 38 b Gillingham, Kent in the 1851 census. Any thoughts as to whether one or both of these are "Elizabeth Maria".

I would also be interested to know more about James (Henry's father) and associated relations. I did find a reference to him at the battle of Trafalgar and and a request to the Navy for monies owing from the Royal Marines after his death on April 30 1842 a few days ago, but I gather you probably have that info. already.

Thanks

GMR
Canada

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