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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur Crabtree born 12 October 1892
« on: Sunday 29 June 25 21:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi mckha489,

I don’t like your tone in your message. Unless you have any substance to comments you should not make them.

Although the family had been split up after the death of their parents they always “kept in touch”. In fact we are still “in touch” a couple of generations later.

Arthur has always been spoken about. He was my grandfather’s twin brother.

The fact that my mother was mentioned in a Will is neither here nor there.

Yes there are family secrets in many families but Arthur was not a secret.

SNG

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur Crabtree born 12 October 1892
« on: Sunday 22 June 25 20:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lucy2,

I haven’t been able to find a passenger list with Arthur’s name on it.

One of the twin’s older brothers had earlier emigrated to NZ. He worked his passage.

Their other older brother along with his family emigrated later. The family still live in NZ.

It was felt that the family could possibly have a new life in NZ especially as the twins had been in a Children’s Home.

Arthur was always spoken about by my grandparents. When we visited his sister (my great aunt) and her family, the question “I wonder what happened to Arthur” always cropped up.
Ironically despite my grandparents and parents having passed away he is still spoken about.

Yes as soon as the 1921 census was opened on FindMyPast, I searched. I have also extensively searched the 1939 register using his birthdate only.

As long as I am alive I will keep looking for him. He is part of my family.

Best wishes
SNG




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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur Crabtree born 12 October 1892
« on: Sunday 22 June 25 20:05 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Lucy2.

That rules out Arthur.

SNG

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Arthur Crabtree born 12 October 1892
« on: Saturday 21 June 25 19:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,

I can’t remember when I started this posting but I have retired since!!

I did my DNA in the hope that there may be a descendent of Arthur’s looking for family but years have passed and there has been no “match”.

Whilst looking through my F****k feed today I found an article that the NZ Obituaries group had “shared” from Friends of Karori Cemetery.

This article contained entries for men who had died in Wellington and were buried without being identified.

I was immediately drawn to the burial on 30th December 1914 in Plot: *Ch Eng 2/A/39
Constable Thompson had found a male in the harbour.

I am wondering what are the chances that this man was Arthur?

The newspaper article about money going missing from his brother’s hotel states the date as Christmas Eve 1914.

Can anyone put me in the right direction to find more information and perhaps a Coroner’s report.

Many thanks
Best wishes
SNG


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Cardiganshire / Re: Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Tuesday 10 December 24 11:04 GMT (UK)  »
Ooo I’ll have to look for that Hanes Teulu. Thanks

I planted the seed about getting the MC and I think that is now on the cards.
SNG

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Cardiganshire / Re: Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Monday 09 December 24 22:21 GMT (UK)  »

Thanks CaroleW

The family living in Corbett Crescent are correct.

My friend said that it is her family.

Her Uncle Thomas Elfed Davies is buried with his first wife in Rhydlewis.

She said that all the family were very talented.

Thomas Elfed Davies was a teacher and had a law degree.

It is his second wife that I am trying to locate.  As I do not know when or where she was born I have been searching for her first husband.
There is a possibility that she was Irish.
She was the housekeeper for Sea Captain Evans before marrying him.
I was hoping to find her on an electoral register for the area she lived in - Pendre, Cardigan.
I have found her as Mary Davies but not as Mary Evans or with her husband.

SNG

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Cardiganshire / Re: Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Monday 09 December 24 19:54 GMT (UK)  »
Oh wow. Thanks for the newspaper report. I’ll send that to my friend now. She will be delighted.
It is her Uncle (mother’s brother).

I’ll go onto FindMyPast now and find the funeral report. (I did offer to do her tree for her but she hasn’t taken the bait yet.)

I’m not sure whether it was Crescent or Road, sorry. I may have made a mistake. I did find the 1939 register entry.
Apparently my friend’s grandfather was a station master.

One of Thomas’s brothers was a Baptist Minister as was / is my friend’s brother.

Does anyone know which ward / area Pendre, Cardigan would be on the electoral register?

I have trawlled through the 1965 ones but not found anything. Mind you a**** was glitching so I didn’t get through it.

Thanks for all your help
SNG

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Cardiganshire / Re: Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Monday 09 December 24 17:53 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Cath151 but I would have thought he would be too old to be still alive in the 1960s however I will take a look.

As Mary’s surname was EVANS when she married Thomas Davies I was looking for her on the election registers under Evans in the late 1950s early 1960s.

She married Thomas in 1969 so her Sea Captain must have died about 1965 - 1968.

My friend said that Mary’s first husband - Sea Captain Evans was a lot older than her. She didn’t say about Mary and Thomas.

No rosie99 she hasn’t purchased the marriage certificate for Thomas and Mary although I have suggested it to her.

Thanks SNG

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Cardiganshire / Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Monday 09 December 24 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I have been going around in circles for the last couple of evenings so would welcome a bit of help which would put me in the right direction please in order to help a friend.

Thomas Elfed Davies was born 12th March 1915 in Pontypridd and died about November 1993 in Cardigan.

In 1939 he is still living with his parents at 11 Corbett Road, Caerphilly. Apparently he then joined the forces.

In Q4, 1948 Thomas married Nancy R.J. Lewis in Cardigan.
Sadly Nancy passed away in Q2, 1967 in Carmarthen hospital.
They had no children.
She is buried in Rhydlewis. (Thomas was later buried with his first wife.)

Where they lived is not sure.

Thomas re-married a widow - Mary Evans who was a house keeper for a Sea Captain and ended up marrying him. He was a lot older than her apparently.

I have looked for possible seamen and did find a record for a John and Benjamin Evans listed with Pendre, Cardigan. There were numbers after their names but what this indicates I have no idea, sorry.

I think I have found a possible marriage for Thomas and Mary in Q3, 1969 in Cardigan but it only gives her married name on the record.

I have tried to find electoral registers for the area to see if I can find Mary living with her first husband in order to find her maiden name.

Mary and Thomas lived in the house Mary lived with her first husband when they first got married but later sold up and moved to Stanley House, Pendre, Cardigan which is where Thomas was living at the time of his death.

Mary was known by “Aunty Molly” when she was married to Thomas and after not hearing from her in about 2006 my friend and her brother went to Cardigan to see if they could find out what had happened to Mary.
Stanley House had been sold.
I have found a couple of possible death records for the name Mary Davies in Cardigan but it is such a common name, who knows.
(No disrespect to any Mary Davieses. It’s a common enough name in my ancestry!)

Any help with finding links to Mary and Thomas so I can find more would be most grateful.
I subscribe to both ancestry and FindMyPast.

Many thanks
SNG

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