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Cardiganshire / Re: Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Tuesday 10 December 24 11:04 GMT (UK)  »
Ooo I’ll have to look for that Hanes Teulu. Thanks

I planted the seed about getting the MC and I think that is now on the cards.
SNG

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Cardiganshire / Re: Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Monday 09 December 24 22:21 GMT (UK)  »

Thanks CaroleW

The family living in Corbett Crescent are correct.

My friend said that it is her family.

Her Uncle Thomas Elfed Davies is buried with his first wife in Rhydlewis.

She said that all the family were very talented.

Thomas Elfed Davies was a teacher and had a law degree.

It is his second wife that I am trying to locate.  As I do not know when or where she was born I have been searching for her first husband.
There is a possibility that she was Irish.
She was the housekeeper for Sea Captain Evans before marrying him.
I was hoping to find her on an electoral register for the area she lived in - Pendre, Cardigan.
I have found her as Mary Davies but not as Mary Evans or with her husband.

SNG

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Cardiganshire / Re: Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Monday 09 December 24 19:54 GMT (UK)  »
Oh wow. Thanks for the newspaper report. I’ll send that to my friend now. She will be delighted.
It is her Uncle (mother’s brother).

I’ll go onto FindMyPast now and find the funeral report. (I did offer to do her tree for her but she hasn’t taken the bait yet.)

I’m not sure whether it was Crescent or Road, sorry. I may have made a mistake. I did find the 1939 register entry.
Apparently my friend’s grandfather was a station master.

One of Thomas’s brothers was a Baptist Minister as was / is my friend’s brother.

Does anyone know which ward / area Pendre, Cardigan would be on the electoral register?

I have trawlled through the 1965 ones but not found anything. Mind you a**** was glitching so I didn’t get through it.

Thanks for all your help
SNG

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Cardiganshire / Re: Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Monday 09 December 24 17:53 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Cath151 but I would have thought he would be too old to be still alive in the 1960s however I will take a look.

As Mary’s surname was EVANS when she married Thomas Davies I was looking for her on the election registers under Evans in the late 1950s early 1960s.

She married Thomas in 1969 so her Sea Captain must have died about 1965 - 1968.

My friend said that Mary’s first husband - Sea Captain Evans was a lot older than her. She didn’t say about Mary and Thomas.

No rosie99 she hasn’t purchased the marriage certificate for Thomas and Mary although I have suggested it to her.

Thanks SNG

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Cardiganshire / Pendre, Cardigan - Stanley House - Mary (Evans) Davies
« on: Monday 09 December 24 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I have been going around in circles for the last couple of evenings so would welcome a bit of help which would put me in the right direction please in order to help a friend.

Thomas Elfed Davies was born 12th March 1915 in Pontypridd and died about November 1993 in Cardigan.

In 1939 he is still living with his parents at 11 Corbett Road, Caerphilly. Apparently he then joined the forces.

In Q4, 1948 Thomas married Nancy R.J. Lewis in Cardigan.
Sadly Nancy passed away in Q2, 1967 in Carmarthen hospital.
They had no children.
She is buried in Rhydlewis. (Thomas was later buried with his first wife.)

Where they lived is not sure.

Thomas re-married a widow - Mary Evans who was a house keeper for a Sea Captain and ended up marrying him. He was a lot older than her apparently.

I have looked for possible seamen and did find a record for a John and Benjamin Evans listed with Pendre, Cardigan. There were numbers after their names but what this indicates I have no idea, sorry.

I think I have found a possible marriage for Thomas and Mary in Q3, 1969 in Cardigan but it only gives her married name on the record.

I have tried to find electoral registers for the area to see if I can find Mary living with her first husband in order to find her maiden name.

Mary and Thomas lived in the house Mary lived with her first husband when they first got married but later sold up and moved to Stanley House, Pendre, Cardigan which is where Thomas was living at the time of his death.

Mary was known by “Aunty Molly” when she was married to Thomas and after not hearing from her in about 2006 my friend and her brother went to Cardigan to see if they could find out what had happened to Mary.
Stanley House had been sold.
I have found a couple of possible death records for the name Mary Davies in Cardigan but it is such a common name, who knows.
(No disrespect to any Mary Davieses. It’s a common enough name in my ancestry!)

Any help with finding links to Mary and Thomas so I can find more would be most grateful.
I subscribe to both ancestry and FindMyPast.

Many thanks
SNG

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Lancashire / Re: Charles Thomas Donbavand, born 1853, Manchester, Lancashire
« on: Wednesday 20 March 24 10:20 GMT (UK)  »
I am more confused than “confused.com” over this family and have been for years.

In 1871 both Alice and Annie are with their mother’s sister Jane Davies and her husband Richard Dawson at 53, Stott Street, Hulme.

This is the Annie who went to America and married George Slatford. The marriage details state that her parents are George Donbavand and Elizabeth Davis (without the “e”).
This was confirmed on the post re Annie.

Alice married Robert Crabtree after her sister Mary Jane died. Robert Crabtree was married to Mary Jane Donbavand.

Sarah Elizabeth Donbavand married Mark Ryder.

The census for 1861 gives Ann E as 4 years of age.  I am now wondering if this is Annie and she is actually 4 months old.

However there is a baptism for Hannah, born 4th August 1857 and baptised 2nd May 1858 in St George’s Hulme.

I have just found this entry for the baptism of Maria : https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F3%3A1%3AS3HY-6P1P-ZS%3Fcc%3D1788853&parentid=R_102734857996

She was baptised on 11th February 1849 in All Saints, Chorlton upon Medlock


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Lancashire / Re: Charles Thomas Donbavand, born 1853, Manchester, Lancashire
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 22:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Heywood

I did have the birth certificate but goodness only knows where it is. I’ve been researching this family for over 20 years (went to Manchester and Ruabon archives in those days)

I’ve just come back to it because I am trying to find a link to a DNA match and it has to be among this lot somewhere.

Thanks to the researchers on this site, Annie went to America and married George Slatford there.

I don’t think Annie and Hannah are the same people because Hannah was born in 1857 and Annie in 1860.
(Alice Donbavand named her youngest daughter Annie and Alice’s son - my maternal grandfather named his youngest daughter Annie so it was obviously a name that was significant to them.)

I did find a death for a Maria Donbavand in Chorlton in 1872 but the prison record of Charles citing Maria’s name indicated that she was still alive in 1874 or did Charles tell a “porkie”?

I can’t read the name of the road on the prison entry. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDG8-1MD
To check if Charles or Maria or Hannah were living there in 1871.

Elizabeth died on the 12th January 1860 in Chorlton.
George remarried in 1864 and died in 1868.

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Lancashire / Re: Charles Thomas Donbavand, born 1853, Manchester, Lancashire
« on: Tuesday 19 March 24 21:20 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Heywood and CarolW.

Yes Charles was born in November 1852. I just used the BMD index when writing my post, sorry.

Just after Annie was born, her mother died.  In 1871 Alice and Annie were with their mother’s sister - Jane Davies who married Richard Dawson.
Alice went on to marry her sister’s husband after her sister Mary Jane died. Consequently Robert Crabtree married Mary Jane Donbavand and then Alive Donbavand.

Annie married George Slatford in New York and died in 1912 in America, having emigrated there.

Hannah was born 4th August 1857 and baptised 2nd May 1858 in Hulme. I’m now wondering if the Ann E on the 1861 census is Hannah. A case of dropping the “h” when there is an “h” and adding it when there isn’t one.

Thanks
SNG


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Interesting that George’s cause of death was “paralysis” Ashtone.
We recently had a death certificate for my husband’s great great grandfather from 1906. He too was given the cause of death as “paralysis”.
Looking into it further he had suffered for about ten months and had been placed in an asylum because they didn’t know how to treat this at the time.
Modern day diagnosis is “syphilis”. Part of the streptococcus virus and treated today with penicillin.

Thanks for that extra information.

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