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Meath / Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Saturday 17 August 24 06:49 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: tmking on Wednesday 11 March 20 11:25 GMT (UK)
And now for my questions (and to get my 3 posts up). I guess this may also serve as a sort of summary for other people who come across this thread. These answers are probably in the family tree book being sent to me but I am impatient.
1. Baron Captain Henri Hoener DeMamiel, are these all of his children with Anna Maria
Stanislaus Hoener DeMamiel b.1834 d. 1899
Henry Hoener DeMamiel b. 1840 d. 1916
George Lucas Hoener deMamiel b. 1843 d. 1926
Thomas Gordon Charles Hoener deMamiel b. 1845 d. 1923
Fernanda Margaret Hoener DeMamiel b. 1841 d. ?
Oswald Napoleon William Hoener de Mamiel b. ? d. ?
Ciserina Sophia Hoener DeMamial b. ? d. ?

2. What were the names of his three children with Sarah McDermott?

3. George Lucas Hoener deMamiel, I read he married three times but I only know of the two being to Esther Robina Gibson and Eliza Dunstan/Dunstone. Is there a third?

4. The children of Thomas Gordon Charles Hoener & Catherine Robeson. I have 7 names but I believe there are 11.

5. George Lucas Hoener & Esther Robinia Gibson had three children, Agnes, Georgina b. 1868 (VIC) & Florence. George didn't have any in his second marriage to Eliza but if he did marry a third time did they have any children? I haven't seen any records if they did.

Oswald Napoleon DE MAMIEL was born about 1836.  I do not have death info.
Cesarine Sophia Jane DE MAMIEL was born about 1838.  Died 1867 in Victoria, British Columbia.
Yes 7 children for Henri Hoener DE MAMIEL and Anna Maria Caroline SWIFT.

3children with Sarah Emma MACDERMOTT:
Gustave Henry Hoener DE MAMIEL
Louis Victor Hoener DE MAMIEL
Emma Fernanda DE MAMIEL

3 wives of George Lucas Hoener DE MAMIEL:
Easther Rosine GIBSON (m 1865 Victoria, Australia)
Eliza OPIE (m 1877 Victoria, Australia)
Emily Filmore STEVENS (m1891 Victoria, Australia)

3 children to last marriage above:
Hoener George William b 1892 Vic, AUS
Ellen Stevens b 1894 Vic, AUS
Lottie Bertha b 1899 Vic, AUS

11 children of TGCH DE MAMIEL and Catherine ROBESON/ROBINSON
Thomas James b 1872 Vic, AUS
Margaret Alice b 1874 Vic, AUS
William Oswald b 1877 Vic, AUS
George Alexander b 1879 Vic, AUS
John Henry b1881 NSW, AUS
Sophia Elizabeth b1882 NSW, AUS
John Edward b 1885 NSW, AUS
Gordon Henry b 1888 NSW, AUS
Caroline Julia b 1890 NSW, AUS
Sydney Stanislas Hoener b 1893 NSW, AUS
Catherine Fernanda b 1898 NSW, AUS

I hope this helps, even if very delayed.


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Dublin / Re: James William Chambers
« on: Sunday 03 December 23 09:51 GMT (UK)  »
This may not be relevant after all this time but I have a copy of some research that indicates an Alexander John CHAMBERS married Fernanda Margaret DE MAMIEL in 1860 (I think in either Ireland or North America), his brother Coote Mulloy CHAMBERS married her sister Cesarine Sophia Jane DE MAMIEL about 1866, I believe either in Vancouver or on Vancouver Island.

I understand Cesarine Sophia Jane died in childbirth in 1867.  I do not know if the child survived.

HellyMelly

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Meath / Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Sunday 03 December 23 09:39 GMT (UK)  »
Blimey - I am amazed to see this thread still going after all these years.

I am back....  ;D

HellyMelly

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Meath / Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Saturday 09 February 13 08:48 GMT (UK)  »
Helen  Potter,

Yes Catherine DE MAMIEL who married a POTTER is part of the tree.  As yet we have no information on her descendants.    ???

I will be happy to put you in contact with gent who co-ordinates all things DE MAMIEL.  I will send you a private message with my e-mail for you to contact me.    :D

There may be a minimum number of posts you need to make befor you can use the message service though.

Hellymelly

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Meath / Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Tuesday 30 October 12 02:51 GMT (UK)  »
Rodders K,

I can see Nelly DE MAMIEL in research material provided to me, I can even find you!  Her grandfather was son of Henri HAENER and Anna Maria Caroline SWIFT; he had my favorite name (thus far in my family history research) ~ George Lucas Hoener DE MAMIEL!

Please message me privately and I will give you contact information for gentleman who has been researching the DE MAMIEL's for many years.  Be prepared to update your part of the family tree for him!

Helen

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Meath / Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Wednesday 11 May 11 06:29 BST (UK)  »
Henri HAENER was born in Nancy, FRANCE 23 May 1802 and Anna Maria Caroline SWIFT at Lionsden near Trim, Meath, IRELAND 29 July 1804.  They married 15 January 1833 at Brighton, Sussex, ENGLAND.

Please message me privately and I will give yo contact information for gentleman who has been researching the DE MAMIEL's for many years.

HellyMelly

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Meath / Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Wednesday 11 May 11 06:14 BST (UK)  »
I have a Caroline Sophia DE MAMIEL being daughter of Catherine QUIRK (b1843 d1922) and Henry Hoener DE MAMIEL (b1840 d1916) in my file - for whom I have been unable to determine any death information.  Thanks for the lead for England!

Caroline Sophia was 5th of 14 children to this couple.  She was born 9 Jun 1868 at Indigo Creek, Victoria, AUS.

Henry and Catherine married 21 Apr 1861 at Chiltern, Victoria, AUS.

I do noy know much about Catherine QUIRK.

Henry Hoener DE MAMIEL was the 4th child of Henri HAENER and Anna Maria Caroline SWIFT.  This couple appear to have used the surname DE MAMIEL from their marriage in 1833.  Henry was born 10 Feb 1840 in Dublin, Ireland.

Hope this helps.
HellyMelly

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Meath / Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Tuesday 07 September 10 14:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,
Finally remembered my login!!!!
The name De Mamiel appears to have been created on the marriage of Henry HAENER to Anna Maria Caroline SWIFT in Brighton ENGLAND in 1833.  Henry was the son of Jean Baptiste Nicholas HAENER and his first wife Anne Therese MAMIEL.

There are several people who have been researching the DE MAMIEL's for many years. I can put people in touch with a gentleman who has provided me with some fascinating research, please contact me offline.

At least 4 sons (possibly 5) of Henry and Anna emigrated to Victoria in teh 1850 - 1860's, with their daughters and the children of Henry's second marriage emigrating to North America.  Hence DE MAMIEL Creek, at Sooke on Vancouver Island, Canada being named after one of the girls.

The 4/5 brothers initially settled around northern Victoria (Barnawartha, Yackandanda....) Stanislas and Gordon (aka Thomas Gordon Charles) then moved to Darlington Point in NSW in about 1880.  At some point Stanislas moved to Howlong and Thomas to Whitton (ot far from Darlington Point).  A number of Stanislas' children remained in the area.

My grandparents are William Francis John DE MAMIEL and Caroline PANNOWITZ, however there are many DE MAMIEL's scattered across the area.

I have some images that I have had made from pictures in the Whitton Museum, but not yet sure how they fit in....

HellyMelly

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Meath / Re: Unusual name De Mamiel?
« on: Monday 13 October 08 04:46 BST (UK)  »
Roby,

I am Sydney based - but grew up in Whitton NSW where Gordon (as he was known) and Catherine settled.

I will be in touch soon...

Helly Melly

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