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Many thanks indeed for the help with deciphering and associated explanations .  I'm always learning something new.
Thanks again
Janie

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Thanks Alexander, that will give me something to work on.  I was just looking at an online secretary hand tutorial and I notice that the letter 'c' appears like a modern 'r'.  I think I've just found Elspet's father's birth in 1630 which is definitely secretary hand. I've never managed to get a line so far back before so I will need to get myself up to speed deciphering it.
Janie

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Hi, Yes here it is.  It doesn't look like secretary hand and the words are fairly clear. 
Many thanks.

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I am looking at an OPR marriage record ( Liberton, 1684) which has a phrase that looks like "signed a log dollar".  This is repeated in several of the legible entries.  Another entry has the phrase "rawn not found".   I imagine that they refer to the banns/contract process but does anyone know what these words mean?

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Fife / Re: penman/hynd
« on: Tuesday 25 September 12 23:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I've come to this pretty late on but I do have some information you might be interested in.  I have a saved search with the dates of James Hynd and Helen Penman's children as:
Elspet 19/10/1817
Alexander 4/8/1821
Euphemia 19/8/1823
William 20/7/1825
Agnes 27/7/1827
James 21/12/1829

I have a parish record of the death of a James Hynd in Crossgates in 1839.  It might be the right James Hynd as his son Alexander married Mary (Maria) Geddes from Crossgates 17/4/1841 and they are in the 1841 census in Crossgates.  The age at death looks like 32 though so that is unlikely to be him.  There are so many Hynds in the area it's easy to confuse them.

I am a direct descendent of James & Helen and I also came across another of your posts enquiring about John Hynd and Beatrice Muir who were my great great grandparents.  Happy to share any information I have and would be interested to hear what info you have.

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Down / Re: Hugh Ryan b 1797 & niece Rose b 1835
« on: Saturday 16 May 09 14:52 BST (UK)  »
I found Margaret and Jane on the 1841. 

I notice that the 1841 record has Margaret as born in Lancashire and born about 1801.    Also, Jane is shown as born about 1830.   None of that fits with the 1851 details.

On the other hand, I can't find any other suitable Jane in the 1841 records, which suggests that this is indeed them.

It looks very much as if you can't really trust any of this record-keeping.

Do let us know if you manage to pin the Ryans down in terms of their origin in Ireland.

****  Ooops, done it again.  Used the wife's login.  It's really Bhoy here.

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Down / Re: L. McAnulty
« on: Wednesday 06 May 09 00:36 BST (UK)  »
Valerie,

There are McAnultys in Church Street today - but that's Church St in  Warrenpoint, which is about 10 miles from Newry.  It's a family firm of funeral directors at number 35 Church St.

Try www.192.com to see this.

There were McAnultys at CHAPEL Street in Newry.

McAnulty from South Down is one of  my own research interests, albeit my dates are a bit before your own.  For example, I have these marriages:

- in 1888 between William McAnulty and Lillie Adams in Newry
- in 1900 between William John McCullough and Lilie McAnulty in Newry.

(Note, though, that "Newry" in this case means the Registration District, which was more than the town, in fact more than even the parish of Newry.)

I also have a Lucy McAnulty born in 1868 in Warrenpoint, Newry.

McSephney is an interesting, unusual name.  Have you tried tracking down the immigration records for that name, to see if they give clues as to the family left behind in Ireland?   (Mind you, I think it's a Scottish name.)



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Scotland / Re: OPR burial records
« on: Sunday 19 April 09 15:27 BST (UK)  »
By the way that is me above.  The computer automatically logged me on as my husband.  I'm new to Rootschat so I'll need to watch out for that.
Janie

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Scotland / OPR burial records
« on: Saturday 18 April 09 21:01 BST (UK)  »
Just started looking at OPR death & burial records and have so far found two of mine.

One is the type of record that SP warns about - simply a list of names, dates and accounts for use of mort cloths, hearses etc.  All the entries have either BBV or BLV in capital letters after the deceased's name.  Does anyone know what these mean?  The record is from Liberton in 1810.

The second is from South Leith Parish although the deaths include people from Fountainbridge, Canongate, Canonmills.  I have heard that the South Leith Parish included the Calton Burial Grounds.
Each record refers to the place of burial e.g. "buried at the head of Mr Adams ground" or  "buried 1yd from the NEC (presumably north east corner) of Mr Darling the shoemakers's ground.  Does anyone know what this means - apart from the obvious?  It occurs to me that it might refer to lairs.

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