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Stirlingshire / James Millar of Grahamston, Falkirk
« on: Saturday 08 January 22 02:05 GMT (UK)  »
Many years later I am picking up my search again and hoping my old friends on here can help me crack a 100+ year old family mystery! I am searching for a birth record of my great grandfather, James Millar. The 1911 census lists his birth place as Grahamston, Scotland and the 1921 census lists it as Falkirk, Scotland so I suppose this confirms it is Grahamston, Falkirk. However, in 1921 he lists his age as 43 years and 1 month and in 1911 he lists his age as 28.  So it's unclear if his year of birth is around 1883 or 1878. His marriage certificate is consistent with the 1911 census year dates but an official search for his birth certificate, many years ago, using this date drew nil results. So, it could be the case that he is a few years older than he said he was on the census and his marriage certificate. On his marriage certificate of 1911 James's farther is listed as 'George Millar deceased.' I don't know his mothers name. My grandmother thought his date of birth was 24 April, but I have no evidence this is correct. Even with this new information I am still not getting any further forward. I would very much appreciate some helping in cracking this mystery!

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Millar of Grahamston
« on: Friday 12 February 10 19:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Annie,

Thanks for your messsge. Sorry I got mixed up in an earlier post. On the 1911 census he is living with his wife, my g grandmother, Florence Millar (maiden name Walker) in Newcastle. They were married in Feb 1911, him being 28 and her 21. So he left Scotland before Feb 1911, but I don't know when.  The wedding certficate gives little clues. Two witness, one is Florence's brother in law and the female witness is called Starkey but we don't know who she was. Florence's father is still alive and his name and occupation are written. I have found his entry on the 1911 census. Jame's father is dead and so 'George Millar deceased' is entered.

So I waited for years for the 1911 census to come out, so I could find out where he was from in Scotland- I did and I am still no further forward!

Thanks
Martine

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Millar of Grahamston
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 22:54 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Annie and John,

Thanks so so much for spending your time and money on helping me. I really really appreciate it. You have found out some really interesting information.
Came over to Nan's house and been rooting around in the old photo tins. She believes he was born on 24th April but was unsure of the year. 1883 seems to be correct as he was married in 1911 (Feb) and this is the age on the certificate.
In the census of April 1911 he also writes he is 28. I have been straining with the magnifying glass and in his regiment pictures there is a sign up with his regiments number.  It looks like it is 2333, at a push it would be 2383 but I would guess the former (the writing is tiny.) I was thinking about what you said with regards the death certificate. I have the rough date of his death so could apply for a certificate, but I am not sure that it would have the information I am looking for.  I have some death certificates for relatives. One from 1988 asks for date and place of birth. One from the 1940s does not. He died in 1937.   Just looked at his marriage certificate again and its definitely George for the father but there are no documents with his mothers name on. Apart from birth certificates, I don't think any documents ask for this. I have seen some of my families WW1 records and they ask for your current address and fathers name, neither of which are going to help me. So, loads more clues but nothing which is leading me towards my goal of a birth or census records. Here he is on all the pictures but I can't find out who he really is!

Any ideas?
Martine

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Millar of Grahamston
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 14:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi DDJJAKE,

It didn't say who his mother was. It just said on the marriage certificate that his father was deceased. He was supposed to have left Scotland due to a family falling out, but I don't know anything further or if he had an siblings. He may have been born out of wedlock.

Thanks
Martine

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Millar of Grahamston
« on: Wednesday 10 February 10 01:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks so so much for your help DDJJAKE. Its great to find someone who has local knowledge and you certainly have that.

I just checked the 1911 census again- sorry got mixed up with 1901. In 1911 he is down as 28, a Bricklayer, from Grahamston, Scotland.  Oddly he wrote 27 and then crossed it out. I suppose its easy to make a mistake. I imagine he would have still been in Scotland in 1901, having been in the army their. Anyway, I will wait to hear if you have any luck.

Thanks again,
Martine

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Millar of Grahamston
« on: Tuesday 09 February 10 20:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks so much DDJJake but its not him. He wasn't killed in action but lived until the 1940s and died at home (I have the date somewhere). I know he went to Ypres and I have several photographs of him with his regiment. One with about a hundred men and some others in Small groups. The numbers are not on it but it is definitely the Northumberland fusiliers. I have his wedding certificate, death certificate, he is on the 1901 census living with my g grandmother and yet to have children, and I know he was in one regiment and pretty certain he was in another. I know the town he was from but its not certain if this was in Sterling or somewhere else. Despite all this I can't find a birth record, military record or tie him to any census when he is single (ever though I know his fathers name is George). So annoying!!!!

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Millar of Grahamston
« on: Sunday 07 February 10 21:21 GMT (UK)  »
Lemon Nelly. Here is one topic that you and the any kind others can help me with. I looked up the people porn in 1883 called James Millar and there are 23. One was born in SLAMANNAN/STIRLING and the other HAGGS/STIRLING. Should I be expecting to see Grahamston/STIRLING or is Grahamston a district of a place such as HAGGS? Neither is him btw.  I don't want to start paying for the Glasgow records until I can clear up the district issue. I can't find any reference to Grahamston.

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Millar of Grahamston
« on: Sunday 07 February 10 20:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Lemon Nelly. The story goes that I got his Dads name from his marriage certificate. My brother (many years ago) sent off for his birth certificate. I can't remember how many years either side they searched but they said they could not find any match. I waited until the 1901 census came out and found out he was from Grahamston. I then found out there was two Grahamston’s and other members on this site said there are more than two. I went on Scotland’s people but couldn't find anything. You seemed to have to know the district, which he lived in, but I don't. I can find some James Millars but I can’t tie the record to him.

I couldn't find any matching records on the ancestory military search. Lots of James Millar’s in the regiment but the ages don’t match.  I can see they have updated some records, but I am no longer a member so will have to ask someone to search again. When I contacted his regiment in Scotland they said I would need to go to London to look up the records. So frustrating. I have pictures of him in his Northumberland uniform and lots of other stuff but I just can’t find out where he came from or who his family is! He still remains a mystery after years of searching.

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Stirlingshire / Re: James Millar of Grahamston
« on: Saturday 06 February 10 01:59 GMT (UK)  »
Just to say a very belated big thanks for everyones help and advice. I hadn't realised that there had been replies to my posts. My great grandfather James Millar was in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders before WW1. He then left Scotland and fought in WW1 in he Northumberland fusiliers.  We do not know when or why he left Scotland and I have not been able to get to London to look for any military records. I thought with him being in the Argyll and Sutherland highlanders it was more likely that he came from Stirling. However, I am just guessing. Lemon Nelly- any ideas about how I can search for his records in your area? I just know the year of his birth and his father’s name, which is common- George Millar. I don't even know if he had any siblings

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