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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: MArmaduke Nelson of Beverley
« on: Sunday 06 November 11 20:14 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry - yes I did see it. Thanks for all your postings.
With one or 2 exceptions the entries were all post-1700.
There could well be Hull (and York) connections, but I can't see any direct links yet. I'm still concentratiopn on making sure I have Marmaduke's father correct.
Bob

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: MArmaduke Nelson of Beverley
« on: Sunday 06 November 11 19:18 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry, should have said Marmaduke's will in 1711
ECY will, East Ridings Archives DDBC/15/253
Bob Barber

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: MArmaduke Nelson of Beverley
« on: Sunday 06 November 11 19:15 GMT (UK)  »
My apologies for the short reply in my last posting. I was cut off in full flow when about to attach an image of Marmaduke Nelson’s MI. It was probably too large (? limit of 500kB for attachments). The text of the MI is as follows (the East Yorkshire FHS has transcribed all the MIs for St Mary Beverley):

Here lieth the Body of Marmaduke
Nelson of Beverley Gen who was
Born ye 17 of September 1648
And died the 12 of April 1714
He had by Elizabeth his Wife
Daughter of William Long of Barto[n]
Esq these Children Willm Marmad[uke]
John Christopher Helen Charle
And Robert of Whom John Died
Infant: The rest surviving Him
Also the Body of Mrs ANN NELSON who de
parted this Life the 15th Day of May in the
Year of our Lord 1780 in the 60th Year
of her Age

   So lots of useful genealogy.
   Thanks to all who have responded to this line of enquiry.
Treetotal’s link was to a lease which mentions the ANN NELSON in Marmaduke Nelson’s MI and another Marmaduke Nelson (who was the grandson of the first Marmaduke, and sister of Ann). Also some Graburns, who intermarried with the Nelsons.
DORAN 54 & Sandymc’s Leeds connections are interesting which I will follow up, although all the indications are that Marmaduke’s father (?William) was in Beverley from at least 1650. There was a William with 3 baptisms at St Mary Beverley:
Mary 26 June 1650; Ellin 25 August 1652 & Martha 15 October 1654 (bur 18 August 1656) who could be the father of Marmaduke (b 17 September 1648). A Marmaduke Nelson (maltster) was mayor of Beverley in 1666 &1682 and appears in the Hearth Tax returns for Beverley in 1672. Mrs Ellen Nelson wf of Mr Wm Nelson was buried 26 February 1688/9 at St Mary. Plus the leases I mentioned in my previous posting. Lots of circumstantial evidence, but no marriage or burial of William or baptism of Marmaduke.
   Looking again at William’s will (written 1711) he refers to “my Brother Stephens” (not Stephen), which probably means a brother-in-law, but I can’t place him.
   Finally, a request for local knowledge. The baptism of Mary (1650) was to Willam Nelson of Pighill. The Hearth Tax for William was for Norwood, Hengate and Walkergate Ward. Are these places in/near St Mary’s parish?
   Bob Barber

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Marmaduke Nelson of Beverley
« on: Saturday 05 November 11 18:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks to all who've replied to this post. It's almosat exactly 2 years since I placed it.
           I never have found Marmaduke’s baptism, but I do now know his birth date. He has a memorial in St Mary’s Beverley (see attached) which gives his dates, and the names of his children. Either the baptism records from 1648 were poor/lost (it was the Civil War period), or I’m looking in the wrong place.
            I know quite a lot about the Nelson family of Beverley. I’m descended (in a rather tortuous way) from Marmaduke’s son Charles. His son Christopher was a bit of a black sheep I think. Christopher married into the Bygott family of Barton-on-Humber (Susanna Bygott). Their daughter Kitty married a John Peel, and then through several more generations to me. The genealogy is pretty solid, at least to my satisfaction.       
           I think Marmaduke’s father was a William, but since I don’t have the baptism I can’t be sure. There are records of the leases of 2 cottages and a stables next to St Mary’s churchyard in Beverley passing from a William to this Marmaduke, then to Marmaduke’s son William. So it’s very likely the first William was Marmaduke’s father.

             Do you know the book by Thomas Tombleson  Fragments relating to Barton on Humber (1906)? There are several pages on the Nelson family, and other prominent local families.




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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / MArmaduke Nelson of Beverley
« on: Monday 09 November 09 19:27 GMT (UK)  »
I'm still trying to find the baptism of Marmaduke Nelson who was a Mayor of Beverley, and was buried in St Mary Beverley in 1714. From his MI he was born c1648. In his will he mentions a brother called Steven.
I have found the YAS transcript for Beverley St Mary and he wasn't baptised there.
Does anyone know of a transcript for St John (the Minster) in Beverley, and/or is anyone able to check the baptisms for St John?
many thanks
Bob Barber

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Lincolnshire / Re: Lincolnshire Wills
« on: Monday 05 October 09 20:42 BST (UK)  »
Re: Boosh's offer of a Lincolnshire wills index search.
Are there any BYGOTT wills 1800-1850, and/or NELSON, in particular Christopher NELSON who was buried in Barton on Humber in 1822>
thanks
Bob Barber

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / Marmaduke Nelson of Beverley
« on: Wednesday 16 September 09 16:31 BST (UK)  »
I am interested in working out the descent of Marmaduke Nelson (c1648-1714) who was Mayor of Beverley in 1714. He married Elizabeth Long (of Barton in Humber - ref: The social history and antiquities of Barton-on-Humber, by H W Bell, 1856). His children were (at least) William, Marmaduke, Charles, Robert & Helen.
Unfortunately the IGI extract only start in 1718 for St Mary, and 1713 for St John.
I would be grateful if you could look for any likely Nelson entries (Bapt, Mar or Bur)
many thanks
Bob Barber

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Longbenton baptisms - Wright
« on: Saturday 04 October 08 15:03 BST (UK)  »
Hello Michael
Many thanks for those baptisms. I think I can place most of them. My Joseph Wright (=Elizabeth Turnbull) had Elizabeth (x28 Aug 1842) and Margaret (x27 Sep 1846). The other Joseph Wright (= Isabella Swan) had Margaret (x7 Nov 1847). Joseph (x11 May 1851) is a puzzle, because I though Elizabeth (bur 11 May 1851) was Elizabeth Turnbull (from NBI). I need to think about that.

The other burials in William Pit are probably children of Joseph's brother (George).

I concluded that the 2 Josephs occupied the same house from their immediate neighbours in William Pit Cottages, Longbenton. In 1841 Joseph Wright (1) lived next door to the Robson family (including George Robson aged 70), and next but one to the Scott family (including Thomas aged 7). In 1851 Joseph Wright (2) lived next door to the Robson family (including George Robson aged 81), and next but 1 to The Scott family (including Thomas 17).

The 2 Josephs were probably related (? cousins). They also both had daughters called Margaret, of similar ages (see above), and both were pitmen/coal miners. The 2 Josephs were also of similar ages (or as similar as you often get in censuses).

Complicated, and I'm still sorting it all out
many thanks to all who helped
regards
Bob

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Northumberland Lookup Requests / Re: Longbenton baptisms - Wright
« on: Thursday 02 October 08 08:27 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all the help/advice, but I still haven't found the 2 baptisms I'm after

Hannah Wright, born 1845+/- 1
Margaret Wright, born 1847 +/- 1

I think they were both the daughters of Joseph Wright and Elizabeth (?Turnbull)

anyone out there have access to the PRs for St Bartholomew Longbenton?
many thanks
Bob

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