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London and Middlesex / Re: Emily Elizabeth Wicks
« on: Tuesday 29 January 13 06:54 GMT (UK)  »
    to Valda,
Much thanks.  You found the two census years for Emily that I could not.   Need to find her birth record.
    to Annette7
Thank you.    The will also named Ellen as the guardian of the surviving son of Thomas and Emily.    In addition  Thomas had an adult son from his first marriage living in London.   Why was he not named the guardian of his brother?    Possibly the suggestion made that Henry or Ellen was related to Emily may prove to be right although we have not found that connection.   If Henry and Ellen were not related why else would Ellen be named the guardian?   Thomas and Emily's son would never talk about his childhood when asked except to say he was sent to work on a farm as a child which he hated.    Both Thomas and Emily had died before the son was six.   Therefore we do not know what took place after his parents deaths.     We do not know anything else between childhood and adulthood.    The only things we know details about is after he was an adult and was married with children.    We wish we had the 1921 census to know where he was.    He was still a teenager in 1921.    Still too many unknowns.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Sharps at The George Pub at 9 Great Queen Street London
« on: Tuesday 29 January 13 05:35 GMT (UK)  »
to CaroleW
Yes 1901 and 1911 censuses were checked.   Yes I do know the children but none had the initial H.
to keyboard86
Thank you for information.  Now the possible start year has changed from 1895 to 1901.   Reduces the possible period from 1901 to 1938
to Annette7
Thank you.   Any information helps.   How does one get to view the postal directories online?
to MaureeninNY
I have only seen Ellen.
to readers
If you know anything about these families or persons please post the information.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Emily Elizabeth Wicks
« on: Sunday 27 January 13 23:01 GMT (UK)  »
to keyboard 86,
The family you named is one I consider as a strong contender but no family has been totally discounted.
to Valda
The will has the Executrix as Ellen Sharpe of Enfield.   Research has shown she was married to a Henry Sharpe who died in 1912.   We do not know if or how they are related.   See my other posting titled Sharps at the George Pub, 9 Great Queen Street, London.    We have a granddaughter of Thomas and Emily who is in her eighties and would really like to know about her grandmother Emily Elizabeth Wicks.

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London and Middlesex / Sharps at The George Pub at 9 Great Queen Street London
« on: Sunday 27 January 13 22:26 GMT (UK)  »
From pubshistory.com is a list of publicans.    From the list and information the site found in the postal directories is the following.
1905 Thomas William Sharp
1910 Emily Elizabeth Sharp
1915 Mrs. Ellen Sharpe
1921 H. Sharp
What year did the Sharps start at the pub and what year did they leave the pub between 1895 and 1938?    Also H. Sharp is an unknown to the family at the present time because the last known person who had a forename which started with an H died in 1918.    What name does the initial H stand for?

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London and Middlesex / Emily Elizabeth Wicks
« on: Sunday 27 January 13 21:39 GMT (UK)  »
A person by the name of Emily Elizabeth Wicks married Thomas William Sharp 28 Dec 1901.   The only known and confirmed data about her.    On the marriage certificate it indicates she was 28 and her father was Henry and her father was deceased.   No occupation listed only the word deceased.
Her husband died 3 Jun 1909 and she died 28 Sep 1911 both in the St. Giles district of London.
Researched data:  1901-28 her age at marriage makes her birth year likely to be 1873 or possibly 1872.   1911 census is the only census after her marriage and before her death.    She is the victualler at the George Pub at 9 Great Queen Street London.   Indicated on the 1911 census is she was born in Essex.    Searches for a birth of Emily Elizabeth Wicks 1972-1973 to a father named Henry in Essex came up zero, however seven possibles were found in or near London.   All have been researched but nothing has been found to say which one may be the wife of Thomas William Sharp.    To make matters more complicated is internet family trees.    Thomas William Sharp has been attached as the husband to four different Emily's and only one tree owner replied back.   After hundreds of hours of research it appears that the only solution is to find someone who has letters or a family bible or real family knowledge which Emily Elizabeth Wicks was the one who married Thomas William Sharp.

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       Up to now I have been able to combine information from family records, England censuses, ancestry.co.uk and family search.org to find ancestors.   Even had what I thought were my fourth generation grandparents.  Due to not being rich I have not purchased BMD records.  Recently I obtained the marriage certificate of Joseph Sharp to Mary Wood, May 5,1839, Rothwell,  Yorkshire and much to my surprise their fathers were not the names I had.  Joseph's father is listed as Benjamin Sharp, clothier and Mary's father as Samuel Wood, mechanic.  Both bride and groom lived on Carr Lane {town unknown}.  Can anyone help?
      Added information: Marriage took place in the Parish Church in the Parish of Rothwell by John Bell, Vicar.  Witnesses were Samuel Lister and Martha
Woodhead.  According to the censuses Joseph was born in Leeds.  Do not know were Mary was born because 1841 census did not have that information and by the 1851 census it appears she had passed away because she is no longer listed as part of the family unit.  Joseph 38 is listed as a widower with three children, Mary Ann 10, Sarah 8 and Maria 6.  Could not find birth or death of Mary due there been too many births of  "Mary Wood" and too many deaths of "Mary Sharp" in Yorkshire. 

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / From dead to living relatives?
« on: Sunday 02 November 08 21:16 GMT (UK)  »
Just found information on relatives born in early 1900's.  How do I find out if one of their descendents are living?  They were born in Edmonton district.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Kipping Independent Chapel
« on: Saturday 25 October 08 03:58 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know if the bmd of the Kipping Independent Chapel for the 1800's is online?

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Procter: John, Emily and Ernest - Bradford
« on: Sunday 19 October 08 14:45 BST (UK)  »
 Found the family on 1881 census and the birth of Ernest in the birth index vol. 9b in 1881 jan-mar.  Cannot find them after that.  What happened after that? Thank you.

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