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Fife / Re: father of john miller

« on: Friday 24 October 08 09:19 BST (UK) »

luckly the family was fairly affluent and the vast majority left wills these have been very "full" in their descriptions of family and occupations. These have confirmed the SP and other searches.

andy

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Fife / father of john miller

« on: Wednesday 22 October 08 21:53 BST (UK) »

dear all

I don't know wether this would be better on beginners but here goes. I've got stuck with the miller search I've been doing I've got back happily to william miller born 17/11/1696 to john and jannet anderson in Kircaldy. I've looked on SP and found his siblings (isobell 1699,henry 1700, james 1703) witnesses for last 3 include a John Miller (bayllis crops up on last 2 associated with the name either prefix of after). I can find no wedding for john miller and jannet anderson trying all sorts of SP tricks as mentioned else where.

Where can I go next? I've looked for the birth of John miller in fife between the dates of 1641 and 1676 (ie 20 to 55) to cover hopefully first and second family. this gives me 47 in fife if I look at kircaldy i get 6 possibles. One has the father as John, in 1645.

This would make john 51 at time of william's birth and 58 at the time of James. If this was a second family this is possible? It might also explain why there is no John as first son. (they have followed the scottish tradition following this.

Does the above seem reasonable?

andy

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Scotland / Re: help with a marriage

« on: Thursday 16 October 08 20:54 BST (UK) »

I wonder if this is court session material, as i mentioned in one of the earlier posts I have a second more traditional entry in the parish records for 2/12/1715. where as this record is 17/11/175. possibly representing the first reading of the banns. As to whetther local it does appear that william and his parents came from up the coast at kirkcaldy rather than inverkeithing where the marriage took place. approx 10 miles or so. Therefore I suspect that it was some kind of bond. however I can't see a record recorded of it being repaid after the marriage, or do people think it might not be repaid until 9months post marrige. Either way it still seems a large amount of money for the parish to levy.

andy

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Scotland / Re: help with a marriage

« on: Tuesday 14 October 08 22:55 BST (UK) »

I've just reviewed the original on sp again. On the left side are 2 columns that haven't come over on the crop one is headed discharge and the other charge. no writting in these columns but a mark in the charge colum. the column on the right is headed discharge. it says william miller consigns and pounds on 3 lines. On SP there is another record of their marriage this one is dated 17/11/1715 the other the 2/12/1715. and simply says names given up for marriage.

as to their status I'm working on that I think william is a william miller born 17/11/1696 in kirkcaldy son of john miller and jannet anderson. john miller I suspect was a ship master. and williams son who I've been following is a ship master, he was 5th son. to the william who's cert we're looking at. It appears John the father left a will, yet to be explored.

andy

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Scotland / Re: help with a marriage

« on: Tuesday 14 October 08 22:34 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that

I should hope they where a lot less £8 seems an awful lot of money!!!
please excuse the above outburst it must be my scottish roots showing