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Hi Gary, thanks for the info regarding George not being in the pub till after 1878  and also the stuff regarding the smithfield market. I now realise that the park refered to was what we knew as Jews Park and was directly opposite Thomas Greens works.The park stretched from north st. upwards to what was camp rd.
Regarding John. I am still not entirely convinced that Maggie was his mother mainly because of his given ages on the censuses. I know sometimes these are unreliable but his seem consistent. The 1911, 1901 and 1891 give his ages as 26, 16 and 6.  which would suggest a birth year of 1885/6.     Hannah died in Mar 1886 and William married Maggie in Dec 1887. All a bit tight!. You obviously have some info on George William who I do not know anything about. Could you possibly post some info on him?.   thanks again      Regards Terry

Hi everyone. I am not sure if I have posted my reply correctly so I am trying again.                     

                  Best Wishes for the new year to all

Special thanks to Atbash and Paul for the Mckenzies grave pictures and the pictures showing the locations of Stainburn Sq and Mabgate Fold. Very useful.

Taken from a Leeds newspaper July 1873 , a sad story which must have caused George a few sleepless nights.

During the week Mr Emsley, The Leeds Coroner, has held inquests in the following instances:on the body of John Wm Dunning, seven years of age, who died at the dispensary on Saturday night from injuries recieved the same afternoon by falling out of a swing-boat in the Leeds Fair. The evidence was to the effect that the deceased had overbalanced himselfwhile endevouring to reach the cap of a boy named Scholes, and fell to the ground, a distance of between eight and ten feet.His skull was terribly crushed, and several of his ribs were broken. He was insensible from the first, and died shortly after admission.He was riding for the second time, and had been placed in the middle of the boat by two different men , but had persisted in going forward to the end seat. The jury returned a verdict of " accidental death" , coupled with a recommendation that children of such tender age should not be allowed to enter fly-boats without having some protection-
The Coroner: I suppose either the protection of a man in charge or their parents?
- The Foreman: yes - The Coroner called George Crowther the owner of the boat,and asked him if he was prepared to carry out the recommendation. Crowther replied that he was, on which the coroner remarked that if a similar accident occured the result might be serious.

        Regards Terry

Hi everybody, please ignore me if this has been covered already. I was able to search using the "address" feature and typing in " the old house at home" in the 1891 census gave me the following.
James Mann - brewer - The old house at home - stainburn st - leeds.

also , in the 1881 census there was another Old house at home at theaker lane- Armley Leeds run by a Mr Sowden who described himself as an Innkeeper/Butcher.

Regards to all Terry

Hi folks its me again. Every time I try to attach a photo it tells me that there already is a file with that name. Please rename . I have renamed it three times and it still wont have it.

Anybody able to tell me what I am doing wrong?   help . Terry

Hi all, The last suggestions re turner/ dennison seem to makevery good sense in view of the lack of any other evidence. Glad to see more Crowther photos appearing.
Does the attached photo mean anything to anyone?. It was among a number of photos left by my mother which we assumed were the maternal side of the family. Nobody can identify these two blokes and a number of people have remarked that the guy standing has got a look of myself and my brother about him. Just a shot in the dark but you never know.
Thanks for looking   Regards to all Terry

ps seem to be having trouble attaching photo, if it has not come thru I will try again. terry