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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / Re: Preston (in Holderness) Baptisms - CRAWFORTH
« on: Sunday 28 July 13 17:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Pels,

Thanks for your continued efforts on this! I really appreciate it. :)

It would make sense if the 1829 burial of William Boys was the one who married Hannah Crawforth. That leads to the possibility that Hannah remarried or passed away herself -- reasons why I might not be able to pinpoint her in Canada or later England census records.

Even if Hannah was in Canada with her adult sons (and perhaps daughter as well) she might very well have a new married name. Early records in Canada aren't nearly as helpful as the earlier English records so its tough going on this side of the pond.

Time to start looking if Hannah Boys/Boyce/Boyes married after 1829 methinks. :D

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / Re: Preston (in Holderness) Baptisms - CRAWFORTH
« on: Saturday 27 July 13 23:57 BST (UK)  »
I'll add:

The Joshua Crawforth (c. 1768 - 1820) married in 1808 to Mary Godolphin (1774 - 1841) in Humbleton. They are definitely the parents of Robert and Elizabeth (above), but I'm still not sure if Joshua is the father of Hannah and Rebecca given they were born prior to his marriage to Mary.

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / Re: Preston (in Holderness) Baptisms - CRAWFORTH
« on: Saturday 27 July 13 23:53 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Pels. on Saturday 27 July 13 23:48 BST (UK)


I'd be interested to know how old this William Boys was when he died :

Burial : 27th September 1829
William Boys
Humbleton, Yorkshire

If their last known child, Joshua Crawforth Boys was baptised on 24th July 1829, I wonder if this is their father ?

Pels.

I've predicted Hannah's father was Joshua Crawforth -- there was one born c1768 living in Flinton when he died in 1820.

That would very likely be my William Boys who died -- why on earth could I not find that death record since its plainly right there. Sigh. Thank you so much!

William Boys and Hannah Crawforth had:

Thomas Boyce (born 1825)
Ann Boyce (born 1827)
Joshua Crawforth Boyce (1829)

Thomas and Joshua emigrated to Canada prior to 1855, and likely not too much sooner, given they both married earlier in 1855 to a group of families that intermarried plenty. Peel Co., Ontario, Canada was mostly Methodist at the time so perhaps that's why we can't find Baptisms. :(

Edit: Yup! I'd seen the William Boys - Hannah Crawforth marriage. I had someone check the original record too. It listed him as a bachelor, her as a spinster, and with consent of parents. Nothing more. I just have to wonder if William really was a bachelor, or this was a second marriage for him. Unfortunately other than "circa 1781" as a theoretical birthdate I know nothing more about him.

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / Re: Preston (in Holderness) Baptisms - CRAWFORTH
« on: Saturday 27 July 13 23:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi Pels,

Thanks for your help -- I didn't notice the Rebecca Wright, somehow, probably because my searching wasn't as diligent as it should have been given she listed a hamlet in the parish as her birthplace. Foolish me.

Its possible Cyrus was born after Rebecca's husband passed away, and was baptized with his mother only. I will look into it further. :)

Sorry I should have mentioned that I knew where Robert was all those years.

Hannah is the daughter I descend from. Her two sons went to Canada and I have them from there. I have found no evidence for Hannah and her husband William BOYS/BOYCE having gone to Canada, but I also can't find them staying in England either.

Edited:

Rebecca CRAWFORTH had married Robert WRIGHT in Humbleton. In the 1851 census you found, Pels, Rebecca and her son Cyrus live right beside a William Wright, his wife Elizabeth, and several children. William and Elizabeth are of age to have been Robert Wright's parents. I'll have to look into that as well since if they did have a son Robert at the right age it'd be pretty good indirect evidence to this being the correct woman.

Given that they did not live in the same household I'd say its less likely that Rebecca was William and Elizabeth's daughter with an illegitimate son.

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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) Lookup Requests / Preston (in Holderness) Baptisms - CRAWFORTH
« on: Tuesday 23 July 13 17:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am wondering if someone is willing to look up the following for me. There's a bunch of CRAWFORTH children (sometimes spelled CRAWFORD) that lived, and married, around the Humbleton, Preston, etc., area. None appear to be Baptised in Humbleton from this generation although some of their children area so I've checked the extant records there. One of the Crawforth children reported a Preston birth location on the 1851 census so this will be my next step. Their potential parents lived in the Flinton hamlet of Humbleton parish.

The children are listed below. They may not all have the same parents as there were a few possible fathers in the area, but it will help me to organize them correctly.

Hannah CRAWFORTH, b. circa 1805.
Rebecca CRAWFORTH, b. circa 1808.
Robert CRAWFORTH, b. circa 1812
Elizabeth CRAWFORTH, b. circa 1814 -- reported the Preston birth location on later census records.

Other than Elizabeth I cannot find any of the others on the censuses despite having marriages for Hannah and Rebecca.

Thank you very much in advance for any time someone is willing to spend to aid me in this one. :)

Mike

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Cork / Re: SHERLOCK(s) in Fermoy, Co. Cork
« on: Tuesday 23 July 13 16:00 BST (UK)  »
Already this proves interesting. I thank you again:

From the Wikipedia Article on the 64th Regiment of foot:

"It was to be 1856 before the regiment found itself on active service again. In the interim there had been a short spell in England, a long posting in Gibraltar, several years in Ireland, another six year tour in the West Indies..."

From the post-Napoleon era. It states it was in Ireland, and traversed the Atlantic with possible stops at St. Helena (Jane was born there circa 1834). Interesting, interesting... :)

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Cork / Re: SHERLOCK(s) in Fermoy, Co. Cork
« on: Tuesday 23 July 13 15:54 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: ballydw on Tuesday 15 January 13 21:10 GMT (UK)
If Jane Sherlocks father was in the military also there is the following which may be helpful.

Peter Sherlock. The Indian Mutiny Medal Roll (British Forces) 64th Foot (2nd Staffordshire)
1857-1859 :)

Sorry that I did not notice this earlier -- apparently my notifications to replies were set incorrectly. That is something to check out because the 81st Regiment, John Davis' regiment, was also involved in the Indian Mutiny, and had children born with Jane there. Even if said Peter Sherlock was not Jane's father, he could be a brother or other relative.

Thank you! I will definitely follow and inquire into Peter Sherlock's military history. :)

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Derbyshire Completed Look ups / Re: HACKETT in Marston-upon-Dove
« on: Tuesday 01 February 11 17:43 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: meercat on Tuesday 01 February 11 17:40 GMT (UK)
no Ann.

Oh dear its always the important one missing.

So it is. :)

So that means the IGI extract likely is complete.  I am willing to bet that if I find where Ann and Robert Archer were Baptized I'll find where the Hacketts were baptized. ;)

I thank you very much for your help and prompt replies. I am going to label this complete because my problem is apparently not one to do with Marston PRs but trying to find out where my families decided to run off to in the late 1790s :D

Thanks again!

Mike

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Derbyshire Completed Look ups / Re: HACKETT in Marston-upon-Dove
« on: Tuesday 01 February 11 17:32 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: meercat on Tuesday 01 February 11 17:21 GMT (UK)
who is Thomas ???

do you mean Thomas Archer who married mary Hackett with witnesses Ann archer and Robert hackett.

I'm sorry. Yes, that's the Thomas. He was Baptized 1785 to another Thomas, and was the eldest sibling of Humphrey (and several others). Said Thomas is the one that married the Mary Hackett I had you search for. That was more of a comment to myself than to anyone. Is there a Baptism of Ann Archer c1793? All of Ann's siblings have their Baptisms recorded there except for Ann, it seems.

Mike

Edit: I'm wrong. For the Archer family I have:

Thomas 1785 - married Mary Hackett (1791)
John 1786
Samuel 1787
Isaac 1789
Humphrey 1790
?? Ann ?? 1793
?? Robert ?? 1796
Sarah 1800

I cannot locate Baptisms for Ann and Robert Archer. The family only resided in Hatton and Hoon Hay farm, both in Marston-upon-Dove...

For the Hacketts:

Robert 1785 - married Ann Archer (1793)
Mary 1791 - married Thomas Archer (1785)
Thomas 1794 - Oddly married in Birmingham to a lady whose family is from Cornwall.
James 1796

I am probably missing Hacketts, but I cannot find where they Baptised their children apparently. I know that the above Hacketts are likely the grandchildren of Sampson Hackett who married in the 1740s to Ellen Williamson and resided in Hatton. Sampson was a family name, and quite unique.

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