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World War One / Re: Who is "F. Thompson"
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 13:48 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Annie,

Gower's is that old but we can't find a Thompson link in his or any local burial records.
[I ended up hanging around the church yard and archives so much they talked me into being PCC Treasurer....never knew research could be so 'dangerous'!]

Yep, been though ALL 151 [via main CWGC site] looking for something "obvious" but without avail.  Interestingly Wells Catherdral hold a memorial book for all Somerset WW1 casualties...this didn't seem to identify a suitable candidate either!

Perhaps the connection isn't really 'local' at all???

I also wonder whether he might not be an "F" [though he's shown in two different, contemporary records as "F" ]? 


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World War One / Re: Who is "F. Thompson"
« on: Friday 05 September 08 11:06 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Annie, Phil and Ady,

Commonwealth/USA - Hmm, good point, I haven't. I have picked up, via a CWGC search, someone who'd been born in Winscombe but had emigrated to Australia  - He'd been on neither memorial at St James, or others around the village.

Parish [parocial and secular records] have been trawled though; the're sketchy enough to believe something is still out there : for example no correspondance seems to remain on how the names were 'selected'.

Migrant workers are a distinct possibility [Railway, mining and agriculture]. One of the reasons I've found for being on the tryptych but not the cross was a very strong lineal connection to the local gentry but not resident/born in Winscombe/Sandford so possibly lack of local roots accounts for FT's absence from the cross.

Local private school [Sidcot] has been trawled - changed my "received wisdom" on Quaker involvement as their losses (including 'in action') are about double the village. This is where the "religion" factor comes in: One of the men of the tryptych but not the cross, was an ex-Sidcot pupil who'd married a local girl. Despite his parents getting permission to errect a plaque in St James within weeks of him dying, he still didn't 'qualify' for the cross - There is a possibility that FT's non-conformist/methodist though brief searches there reveal nothing..... [for a small village, we've got a good choice of worship!]

I'm almost sure the guy's dead [i mean, "in period" - he's specifically identified in two records!] BUT it is a distinct possibility he's not strictly a war casualty - one of the other men mentioned on the tryptych but not cross, died of an infection in 1919 - his service record [luckily in TNA] mentions no injury and he's not in CWGC records.

I've checked the absent voters which hasn't given any info on this case BUT did on another person who's named on the tryptych but not on the cross - that person, well the Winscombe version, seems to have been very much "alive" perhaps even into the 40's!] BUT shared his name, initials and rank with someone else who did die!  It could be that there was some confusion when the cross was put into its current layout!

So there we have it....perhaps the '11 release will provide the 'magic bullet'!

Thanks to all...still receptive to any ideas on my possibly non-CofE, possibly migrant, possibly not 'dead' WW1 'casualty'!




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World War One / Who is "F. Thompson"
« on: Thursday 04 September 08 19:08 BST (UK)  »
This is something of a long shot....

"F.Thompson" appears as a name of a fallen WW1 soldier on a wooden tryptych and in the vestry minutes of St James the Great, the C of E parish Church of Winscombe [and Sandford, at that time], Somerset.

He DOESN'T appear on the stone war memorial in the Churchyard...but then there are quite a few differences but apparently no surviviing records of "why". Religion and place of birth might have something to do with it though.

There is a another Thompson, an "A. Thompson" also on the tryptych as a man who served and returned,, possibly a brother/father/son/cousin????

I've tried everything i can think of to identify them.
- CWGC/SDITGW records have plenty of "F" Thompson possibilities but none with obvious Winscombe or Sandford connections.
- Census records don't seem to tie an "F" and an "A" to anywhere geographically near.
- available local archives don't seem to reveal any Thompson families around that time.

This is the first time I've tried anything like this...but while I've managed to get "all the way" with c40 odd other WW1 and 2 casualties - this one has me completely stumped.

Anybody got any off the wall suggestions?


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World War One / Re: 1914-1918 war records
« on: Thursday 04 September 08 18:08 BST (UK)  »
Why thank you Annie...

To be honest, I'm no fan of it.....I've a picture of it when it was new and the names are laid out entirely differently AND there are differences in the names of the dead between it and the stone memorial in the churchyard - even though the wood tryptych was moved to the porch c 6months before the cross was erected  ???

It gives me my one last problem of a name I can't trace....I'm thinking of hiding the tryptych!

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World War One / Re: 1914-1918 war records
« on: Tuesday 02 September 08 14:26 BST (UK)  »
There are some pictures on the ww.craigside.com site - its all 'work in progress' and hasn't been touched for quite a while!

Here's a (rather large - sorry!) pic of the tryptych


The Hemmens pair are either side of the Cross "bar" on the right.

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World War One / Re: 1914-1918 war records
« on: Monday 01 September 08 15:02 BST (UK)  »
Not sure if this is helpful or not...

Winscombe has a WW1 memorial tryptych in the porch of St James the Great which also lists those who served - including a G [defo a G!] and an H Hemmens.

From the Vestry record book it seems that in 1914/15 that "G" was in the Somerset light Infantry and "H" was in the RFA.  No "C" or "W" mentioned

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