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Monmouthshire / Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
« on: Monday 30 March 09 20:58 BST (UK) »
Yes, sorry about that. That's what comes off not reading the replies properly I guess 
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Monmouthshire / Re: Kathleen Frances Kyte (ab 1880)
« on: Monday 30 March 09 17:29 BST (UK) »
There is a Frances Kathleen Kyte on the 1891 census (daughter of Edwin & Caroline) aged 4 born in Huntington, Hereford and she's one of 5 children.
Think she's on the 1901 census (in Bryngwn) Radnor where her surname is spelt as Kite. The rest of the family seem to be living in Radnorshire as well by then.
Think she's on the 1901 census (in Bryngwn) Radnor where her surname is spelt as Kite. The rest of the family seem to be living in Radnorshire as well by then.
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Monmouthshire / Re: 1841/51 census lookup please
« on: Saturday 03 January 09 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Might this be the family in 1851?
HO 107/1494 - Page 84 (Tottenham Court, St. Pancras)
9 Tottenham Street
William James Head 50 Carpenter Monmouthshire
Mary James 50 Monmouthshire
Fanny James 19 Dressmaker Monmouthshire
Agnes James 15 Milliner Monmouthshire
George James 12 Errand Boy Monmouthshire
Burton J. James 10 Scholar Monmouthshire
Sorry they didn't seem to want to give a town, just Monmouthshire.
HO 107/1494 - Page 84 (Tottenham Court, St. Pancras)
9 Tottenham Street
William James Head 50 Carpenter Monmouthshire
Mary James 50 Monmouthshire
Fanny James 19 Dressmaker Monmouthshire
Agnes James 15 Milliner Monmouthshire
George James 12 Errand Boy Monmouthshire
Burton J. James 10 Scholar Monmouthshire
Sorry they didn't seem to want to give a town, just Monmouthshire.
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Monmouthshire / Re: dos cottages
« on: Friday 17 October 08 20:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Derien
Dos Cottages were adjacent to the Dos Works which later became Cordes if my memory serves me.
If you go onto multimap and type in Queens Hill, Newport then Dos Cottages are slightly north of the junction of Queens Hill Crescent where it joins Queens Hill and next to Lucas Street. I can't for the life of me remember how many cottages there are - and until a couple of years ago I walked past them every day going to the bus station (old age) But for the record, they are what I term back to front as you enter through a door in the wall from Queens Hill then there is a small yard but they do appear to have large gardens at the rear - birds eye view on multimap.
Part of the site of the Dos Works is now the LDS Church and I am not sure but I think MD Fabrications also used part of the site but I could be totally wrong on that one.
HTH
Louise
Dos Cottages were adjacent to the Dos Works which later became Cordes if my memory serves me.
If you go onto multimap and type in Queens Hill, Newport then Dos Cottages are slightly north of the junction of Queens Hill Crescent where it joins Queens Hill and next to Lucas Street. I can't for the life of me remember how many cottages there are - and until a couple of years ago I walked past them every day going to the bus station (old age)
But for the record, they are what I term back to front as you enter through a door in the wall from Queens Hill then there is a small yard but they do appear to have large gardens at the rear - birds eye view on multimap. Part of the site of the Dos Works is now the LDS Church and I am not sure but I think MD Fabrications also used part of the site but I could be totally wrong on that one.
HTH
Louise
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Staffordshire / Re: Trentham Hall Estate Buildings
« on: Sunday 05 October 08 20:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Linell & Liverpool Lass
I was thinking the Gas Works would be quite a way from the main house as well but given the location of buildings on the 1881 map I don't know. My thoughts are it was either one end of Park Drive or the other but I'll find it somehow because it's now seriously getting to me
I have been watching the Sutherland Papers coming on line and hopefully they should be complete by the end of this year - been looking for a while so what's another few months?
Liverpool Lass, I will keep looking odds are that I will stumble across it while searching for something else - I do tend to find myself being side tracked when I am in Libraries or Record Offices, much to my partners dismay
Louise
I was thinking the Gas Works would be quite a way from the main house as well but given the location of buildings on the 1881 map I don't know. My thoughts are it was either one end of Park Drive or the other but I'll find it somehow because it's now seriously getting to me
I have been watching the Sutherland Papers coming on line and hopefully they should be complete by the end of this year - been looking for a while so what's another few months?
Liverpool Lass, I will keep looking odds are that I will stumble across it while searching for something else - I do tend to find myself being side tracked when I am in Libraries or Record Offices, much to my partners dismay
Louise
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Staffordshire / Re: Trentham Hall Estate Buildings
« on: Saturday 04 October 08 23:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Liverpool Lass,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried Staffs R.O. at Stafford (visited) & Hanley (phoned), I've also emailed Trentham Gardens to see if they have any old plans of the estate - they don't.
Stafford had plenty of info on the Estate but I couldn't locate anything specific to the Gas Works or Gas Manager/Makers House. I did get a link to Dunrobin where the Gas Maker (Elijah Derbyshire) had moved in his employment with the Sutherland family in 1871 along with his wife & two youngest daughters.
The record took the form of complaints from the Steward as to how much coal was being used to produce gas for the Castle, although eventually there was an admission that the coal in that part of Scotland was different to the type used in Staffordshire and that Elijah - who by this time was 60 - wasn't slacking by not cleaning out the Retorts properly
Will just have to keep searching I think - and it's not even my side of the family!!
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried Staffs R.O. at Stafford (visited) & Hanley (phoned), I've also emailed Trentham Gardens to see if they have any old plans of the estate - they don't.
Stafford had plenty of info on the Estate but I couldn't locate anything specific to the Gas Works or Gas Manager/Makers House. I did get a link to Dunrobin where the Gas Maker (Elijah Derbyshire) had moved in his employment with the Sutherland family in 1871 along with his wife & two youngest daughters.
The record took the form of complaints from the Steward as to how much coal was being used to produce gas for the Castle, although eventually there was an admission that the coal in that part of Scotland was different to the type used in Staffordshire and that Elijah - who by this time was 60 - wasn't slacking by not cleaning out the Retorts properly
Will just have to keep searching I think - and it's not even my side of the family!!
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Staffordshire / Trentham Hall Estate Buildings
« on: Saturday 04 October 08 14:57 BST (UK) »
I am trying to locate the Gas House at Trentham Hall without success. The Census entry for 1851 puts it between Trentham Hall Laundry & the Duchess's School while the 61 has it between the Girls School and the Trentham Estate Yard & Farm Yard.
I have tried "walking" the census route using modern day maps and also those available on the old-maps website but do not feel very confident that I am in the right place on the Estate.
I am wondering if anyone knows if the School is the derelict building alongside Park Drive at it's junction with the A34 and opposite the Mausoleum (as viewed on Google Earth) which would narrow down the location of the Gas House or was it elsewhere?
If anybody also knows where the Gas Works building was on the Estate then that would really be the icing on the cake
I have tried "walking" the census route using modern day maps and also those available on the old-maps website but do not feel very confident that I am in the right place on the Estate.
I am wondering if anyone knows if the School is the derelict building alongside Park Drive at it's junction with the A34 and opposite the Mausoleum (as viewed on Google Earth) which would narrow down the location of the Gas House or was it elsewhere?
If anybody also knows where the Gas Works building was on the Estate then that would really be the icing on the cake
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Monmouthshire / Re: birth
« on: Monday 08 September 08 22:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Sharon,
Not sure if this is your man but if he's the son of William & Mary and lived most of his life on River Row then could he be Edwin Charles Parfitt birth registered December quarter 1863?
The GRO ref is Pontypool District, Volume 11a, Page 139. He's the only one I have found and if the River Row chap is yours then he is referred to as Edwin on the 81 census.
BTW if River Row is an address that is familiar to you then we may have a family connection via the Parfitt line from Clutton as William & Mary show Clutton as their place of birth in the 71 census.
Regards
Louise
Not sure if this is your man but if he's the son of William & Mary and lived most of his life on River Row then could he be Edwin Charles Parfitt birth registered December quarter 1863?
The GRO ref is Pontypool District, Volume 11a, Page 139. He's the only one I have found and if the River Row chap is yours then he is referred to as Edwin on the 81 census.
BTW if River Row is an address that is familiar to you then we may have a family connection via the Parfitt line from Clutton as William & Mary show Clutton as their place of birth in the 71 census.
Regards
Louise
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Monmouthshire / Re: Help Granddads changed his name
« on: Tuesday 02 September 08 20:54 BST (UK) »
I read the first two letters of the surname to be Ha - reading from the image on Ancestry. The H is very ornate but it's the same as the initial letter for Hodgson two houses up the page.
Don't ask me why there appears to be an odd letter in amongst the rest of the surname - it looks like an n as the third letter before first g - but perhaps the enumerator was unfamiliar with the surname and did an approximation of Haggerty which might have been a name he was familiar with? This could possibly explain what looks to me to be ie at the end of the surname.
Hope this helps?
Don't ask me why there appears to be an odd letter in amongst the rest of the surname - it looks like an n as the third letter before first g - but perhaps the enumerator was unfamiliar with the surname and did an approximation of Haggerty which might have been a name he was familiar with? This could possibly explain what looks to me to be ie at the end of the surname.
Hope this helps?
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