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Cumberland / Re: Whinlatter Toll gate
« on: Tuesday 29 January 13 23:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the notes, Irene.  You can reach me through personal e mail at (I spell out in case addresses are not functioning here) prax39 at gmail dot com.

I look forward to hearing more from you and appreciate the information.

Best,
Wallace

Quote from: brushbroomstick on Tuesday 29 January 13 17:17 GMT (UK)
I have as yet been unable to forge a link between your family and mine but there must be one. There are so many Williams and Josephs in my line and there were an awful lot of Vickers. My Grandfather John William Vickers was one of 3 of that name all born in Thornthwaite in the same Quater of 1866.Whinlatter Pass was a Toll Road from Keswick , passing through the small village of Thornthwaite. Crosthwaite was about 2 miles away. The family of my gr grandfather William Vickers were all woodsmen in the Whinlatter Forest and I guess anyone who lived there would be the same.
If you send me a personal message I can send you some information on Whinlatter.
Irene

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Cumberland / Re: Whinlatter Toll gate
« on: Monday 28 January 13 23:41 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: brushbroomstick on Monday 28 January 13 11:44 GMT (UK)
Do you have the parents of William's father Joseph?
Irene
Thanks for the quick reply. Unfortunately, I don't have Joseph's parents. You probably know that Ann and Wm were twins (1834).  Ann's brother Wilson seems to have had 2 sets of twins. Looks like many in the family migrated south to the Newcastle-under-Lyme area, including my great g'father Henry Fenwick Pickering who married Ann Vickers.

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Cumberland / Re: Whinlatter Toll gate
« on: Monday 28 January 13 03:32 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: brushbroomstick on Thursday 13 November 08 17:22 GMT (UK)
My gr gr grandparents William VICKERS and Mary FEARON were tollgate keepers on the Whinlatter pass near Keswick from the 1840s to the 1880s or 90s

About  18 months ago some lovely lady e-mailed me a photo of what she thought was the Whinlatter Toll gate cottage but I have since changed my computer and this photo was lost.

If anyone has a photo I would very much appreciate it.

Irene

If it's relevant, my gr gr g'parents Joseph and Esther Vickers had a son named William born in 1834 in Whinlatter, Coaldon
Wallace

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Cumberland / Re: Whinlatter Toll gate
« on: Monday 28 January 13 03:29 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: lorimer on Sunday 16 November 08 14:12 GMT (UK)
Hello, saw your posting about the Vickers family.  I am tracing the Vickers family of Crosthwaite/KESWICK area.  I have copies of your William Vickers on the census from 1841 in the chance that they may be related to Joseph Vickers and Esther Hodgson who married at Crosthwaite 1833.  Ring any bells?
Regards
Louise
Joseph and Esther Hodgson were my gr gr grandparents. I have their descendants. I would like to know more about their location in Whinlatter, occupations, etc.  Their daughter Ann(e) was my great grandmother, illiterate when she married Henry Fenwick Pickering in Hensingham July 27, 1858.

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Cumberland / Re: Whinlatter Toll gate
« on: Monday 28 January 13 03:26 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: brushbroomstick on Thursday 18 December 08 16:52 GMT (UK)
The photo was of a cottage on the Whinlatter Pass which the sender thought was the only one likely to be the Tollgate cottage.
The photo on my profile is of John William Vickers born 1866 my grandfather and the grandson of William & Mary.

You had earlier notes to Lorimer about Joseph and Esther Hodgson Vickers. These are my gr gr grandprents. Do you have any other specifics about their location at Whinlatter, occupations?  I have the descendants.
thanks,
WVK

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Staffordshire / Re: Rowlinson & Hurst in Cheadle
« on: Sunday 20 December 09 02:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Alf. I saw you had posted something about Staffordshire graveyards.  I have been looking for more information about a young girl, Sarah Jane Pickering, who burned to death in Silverdale in 1864.  And her father Henry Fenwick who taught school there and was quite popular, know as "The poet of the village" according to his obit in a 1975 Uttoexeter paper.  (In 1872 he and family moved to Doveriddge in Derbyshire where he became manager of the cooperative, and again was quite popular.  I've been trying to find anything bout his daughter's death, anything he wrote, any other records, but have very little other than the obit and a reference to his daughter's death and inquest.  Sarah Jane's death certificate, #345, Wolstanton, Staffordshire, lists two words as the cause of death: "By burning"  An inquest was held on 4 April 1864 by coroner W. Harding

Any wisdom about where I might look?

THanks,
Wallace

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