RootsChat.Com

HI Lauriel;
ive only just managed to access this account , im allens son .
im afraid my father Allen passed away in august 2016 , i remember a bible he had and  i found it ,  i had seen a few e mails he had been sent and replied  to the person about the bible , it went  to someone in usa i believe , if it is same bible , but was collected by a uk based relative and they sent it on to them .
maybe this is you .
not sure if i am talking of same bible as i dont remember the names in it , i have no idea if there are any other bibles around but if i see what i think is something in connection to it i will respond on here .
regards
 ian

He was Born at South Marston Wilts[in the "Red House"]a nephew of Alfred Owen Williams 1877-1930,his mother was Ellen Dunphy[bn Duncannon, Co Wexford] and father Henry Oliver Williams 1876-1919[bn South Marston][I have a copy of their Marriage Certificate]
Harry was born in 4thQ 1916 and died at Stratton St Margarets Hospital on the 19th of October 1955. And I would love a little bit of help in finding the reference of his Death Certificate,as I just cannot find it.
His Probate of 28 Dec 1955 gives me the Death Date and I wonder what happens when the Coroner could be involved,because the circumstances have been told to me verbally by many relatives.
Has anyone a better system than mine because Harry is missing on" A-----Y"
I do know that Harry served in the RAF during WW11 as I have some of his letters, was a Clerk to Swindon Council after the war, until his Death.
Many thanks if you could help please.        Allen.

Just found the papers!!Dated March 31st 1977,Randolph, Wisconsin USA.
"In the memoir of David Lloyd Jones,son of John Jones Talsarn,is a chart giving the lineage of John Jones back to Hedd Molwynog,founder of the 9th Noble Tribe of Gwynedd in the year 1079"
Question ;;;--- has anyone ever seen a copy???
"The Wheel Blueprint was drawn up by Edward L Williams,Cambria Wis,approximately 90 Years ago,the 33inch oak frame was fashioned by William Edwards also of Cambria."
It says:- "the hub begins the recorded history of the David E [Buckhill]Williams family and in 1977 graced the home of Nellie Williams who in that year, was aged 86" .
Margaret Edwards 1788-1846 was the Gt Grandmother of Mrs Williams late husband David E Williams.
Mrs Williams and her husband,received the wheel when Mr Williams father Thomas E Williams died in 1942.
Another note on 2nd page says"There is an identical wheel of this family in Wales,though it is not known how or when it got there.Mrs Williams knows that it is in the posession of relatives,though they are relatives she,s never met and wouldn,t know"
Thomas David Williams will receive the wheel when the time comes to pass it on,he is the Nellie,s Grandson he is the son of Thomas and Phyllis Williams Cambria,it was his fathers name, Thomas M, that was the last to be entered on the wheel,that was in 1927,.
Its all on two sheets 1xA4 and 1x A3 and the first one A3 has Mrs Williams on it in front of the wheel,the other a write up on many such as Edward L [Tredolphyn]Williams[1827-1903] a leading mathematician in his day,,his son Owen J Williams was the foremost Welsh Poet in America in English Verse while he lived,he wrote the poem in the centre of the wheel.
In memory dreams-I plead in vain
Oh wheel of time,turn back again
And take me home,once more to be
A child upon my mothers knee.

But headless time rolls ever on,
The happy past forever gone,
Beyond the sea my childhood,s home
My Mothers soul beyond the tomb.
Owen J Williams 1897.

To those stalwart Rootschatters who have helped me find the family still in Australia Thank You, The whole group of this mans Ancestors are on 3 Family Trees on A------Ry,, without your help I would not have put his name in, its 4 inches of snow, and cold outside,so I came indoors!! if my father had not put a note with the photograph,"ex Australian Army",and the fact was Edgar worked with him in the Great Western Railway Works, Steam Hammer Shop, Swindon,probably as "Furnaceman" which was his occupation in Newcastle NSW[Army Record] Now I find that my Grand daughters are linked through Large/Morse family to Clara Alice Large 1898 Edgar,s Wife,just about the full circle.
A great big thank you.
Allen.