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The Lighter Side / Re: MyHeritage - worth the sub?
« on: Thursday 19 February 26 21:59 GMT (UK)  »
Some people love it, some hate it. I wouldn't be without it. If you're serious about research go for it.

Zaph

What resources does it offer that ancesty and FindMyPast don't?

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The Lighter Side / MyHeritage - worth the sub?
« on: Wednesday 18 February 26 17:34 GMT (UK)  »
I keep getting matches through MyHeritage but can't see the details because I don't have an active sub. They arehowever offering me a big discount to renew a long-forgotten sub.

I've already got subs with Ancestry, FindMyPast and the Genealogist (that last really for the maps).

Would there be anything to be gained in terms of available resources from getting a MyHeritage sub as well?

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The Common Room / Mystery beneficiary in will
« on: Wednesday 11 February 26 13:04 GMT (UK)  »
My grandmother died in the 1990s. I've just downloaded her will (written moe than 20 years before her death) and actually read it, for the first time ever. I wasn't expecting any surprises as the family all knew what each other received in the will.

But there is a surprise albeit a minor one! A very small gift to a man of whom I'd never heard.

I've done some poking around. He was similar in age to my grandmother, lived in the nearest large town, but not a neighbour of hers. He was married, and had had children, and had lived at the same address for over 30 years prior to the will being written. I'd never heard his wife's name either (and I did know some of my gran's friends; she outlived all her close female friends). Neither this man's surname nor his wife's maiden name appears anywhere in the family tree. He died a couple of year after my grandmother wrote her will; I don't know if his descendants were ever traced by the executors of her will, but the amount bequeathed was such that it wouldn't change anyone's life!

The only thing I can find that might offer a clue is that in the 1939 register he was a clerk to a solicitor, so I wondered if maybe he'd helped my grandmother put the will together - but the signatories on the will are listed as solicitor's clerks and neither has his name. He would have been just past retirement age when the will was written.

It is of no consequence really, I'm just nosey! And of course it's likely I'll never find out why he was a beneficiary, and that's OK. But what other possible scenarios can people think of?

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The Common Room / Re: Doctor as a given name
« on: Monday 19 January 26 14:15 GMT (UK)  »
I see that Doctor Who (?) got married in Lewisham in 1994!

I can't see any birth by that name so I wonder if this person had changed their name by deed poll!

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Plenty more here to untangle.

Looking at the Thomas/Eliz/Charles/William family, I see that Thomas was a smith too. They lived in Bristol street (which doesn't help). But I can't see anything to suggest that Betsey's mother was Elizabeth, or that Charles (if miswritten as Thomas) had married an Elizabeth before 1841. I'll have a look later to see if the family is identifiable in other censuses.

Looking at the Charles Glover that went to the USA, I see that no parents were named when he died (the column for this info is blank). There was a Charles Glover or Nichols bapt in Coleshill, in 1804, the son of Anne Nichols. I wonder if this could be Charles.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: birth
« on: Thursday 15 January 26 21:18 GMT (UK)  »
1872
Born
August 9
Baptised
Septr 4
1872

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The Common Room / Re: Can anyone help with Charles and Betsey Glover? Birmingham, 1800s
« on: Wednesday 14 January 26 22:07 GMT (UK)  »
Willsy, good stuff, thank you!

I'm off to see if that dob ties in with any possible baptisms for Charles.

Hanesteulu, I saw that too; tht ties in nicely with that being Mary Day's family (I know the older MAry isn't listed as MIL but it seems a little too coincidental for her NOT to be related). But I suspect that's not Betsey's family.

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The Common Room / Can anyone help with Charles and Betsey Glover? Birmingham, 1800s
« on: Tuesday 13 January 26 16:59 GMT (UK)  »
Betsey Glover married Reuben Jones in Aston in July 1850; their first child, Phoebe, was born in Nov 1850.

In the 1851 census, Betsey, Reuben and Phoebe are with B's father, Charles Glover, and Charles' wife Elizabeth, in Nicholls Place, Aston. Charles was age 47, b Marson Green,and a journeyman blacksmith; Elizabeth, also 47, b Wolverhampton. Betsey was b Birmingham and aged 22. The censuses all put her dob in the 1828-29 range.

The closest I can find for Betsey's birth is a baptism for Elizabeth in 1828 at St Philips, in Birmingham, to Charles and Mary Glover of Canal St. Charles was a coach harness furniture forger, which I'm guessing is a job for a blacksmith.

There are lots of other children baptised to Charles and Mary at St Philips; Joseph (1828), Mary Ann (1830), Martha Selina (1833), Sarah (1834), Charles (1836), Mary Selina (1839), John (1839), Rosetta (1841), Edmund Charles (1843). From Martha onwards, the address is always Pritchett St, and Charles an auger maker. I'm not so sure that an auger maker would be a blacksmith, although clearly there's overlap in those skills. MMN for the younger children was Day, and that ties with a marriage between Charles Glover and Mary Day in Handsworth on 20/8/27.

However this family is together in 1841, Charles an augur maker, with no sign of Elizabeth/Betsy. I can't see the family together in 1851 but in 1850 the son John was buried and in June 1851, son Joseph married, and the address both times was Little Ann Street (NB not the address shown for Betsey and family in the 1851 census).
 
To confuse matters, a different Charles Glover married Mary Scarlet in Aston on 29.7.27. And Charles Glover, a widower, married Elizabeth Quinton, a widow, in Birmingham in May 1836. Had Mary nee Scarlet died? But I can't see a burial for her.

So I think there were likely 2 Charles/Mary couples baptising children at least initially and I'm not convinced that Betsey's mother was Mary Day.

Hope this isn't too confusing! Can anyone see any useful baptisms/marriages/burials/censuses?

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Leicestershire / Stoneygate - Leicester or Leicestershire Central?
« on: Friday 09 January 26 21:16 GMT (UK)  »
Just that. I'm trying to disentangle family lines and am clutching at straws.

Looking at marriages in the early 1960s and the district info for those 2 reg districts, it looks to me as though Stoneygate is more likely to fall under Leicester than Leicestershire central - does anyone know if that's correct?

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