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Cavan / Re: Blackstocks from Cavan?
« on: Monday 09 March 09 19:50 GMT (UK)  »
Jeannie

Trish is a descendant of William Blackstock and I am descended from James.  My gg grandmother was Sarah Blackstock, daughter of James and Margaret, who married Robert Edgar.  William Blackstock died 13th May 1877 in Kirkcolm.
Quite a few of the Blackstock family moved up to Whiteinch in Partick, Glasgow from the late 1850's on and lived pretty close by to each other.  In the 1871 census for Lochheads Back Land in Whiteinch, Peter Maitland, labourer in shipyard is listed along with his family.  HIs sons John and James are listed as Ship Carpenter and Ship Carpenter apprentice respectively.  Lodging with the family are two other apprentice ship carpenters, one of whom is James Thomson.  So it would seem he married the landlady's sister!

They all lived round the corner from the BarclayCurle Shipyard which was fairly new at that time, and the whole neighbourhood was getting pretty crowded with all the incoming labour.  There 9 people living in the Maitland house in 1871 and the house is recorded as only having 2 rooms which had windows.  9 people, 2 rooms in a back street in Whiteinch.  A far cry from the open farmland of their youth really.

The parish record you mention is actually a record of the couple declaring to the minister and the kirk session that they had been married by Mr McKean in Donaghadee in the June of the previous year i.e. 1826.  There are numerous such entries in Kirkcolm, Leswalt and Sranraer.  A lot of couples said they were married in Ireland.  Whether they actually were or not is another matter...I imagine they pitched up in Kirkcolm either already having their first child Margaret, or expecting one, and they have been required to account for themselves.

Would it be possible to see a scanned image of the receipt/note in the bible?  It's very interesting.  The Spratts were clock and watchmakers in Saintfield, Co Down, and James Caffrey was the eventual husband of James' niece Isabella, one of his sister Nancy's illegits. It'd be fascinating to know how it came to be in James Blackstock's bible. James Caffrey would have been about 16 in 1836.

Sheila

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Cavan / Re: Blackstocks from Cavan?
« on: Saturday 07 March 09 23:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jeannie and Trish

I don't know anything about a Jean marrying a Boyd, however, strangely enough, the mother of Sarah Blackstock's husband, Robert Edgar, was named Jean Boyd.  She was born (according to censuses) in the Isle of Man and married John Edgar in Stranraer in 1827.

As to James Blackstock's gravesite - I don't think there's anything to be seen now - certainly no stone or inscription either in Kirkcolm or Leswalt, and no mention in the published transcriptions that I've seen so far, although I assume they're probably in Kirkcolm - Trish, I sent you a photo that my son took there, didn't I? 

Since Blackstock is not really an Irish surname, and the fact that the vast majority seem to be based in Dumfriesshire, Cumbria and Argyll, my pet theory is that "our" Blackstocks were only passing through Ireland and are probably descended from planters.  I would dearly love to be able to prove it, but it so far eludes me.

Jeannie - does the Bible shed any light on the Irish connection at all, and is there a reference to James and Margaret's putative marriage in Donaghadee?  Having spent most of today in the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, trawling through the OPRS, I am coming to the conclusion that couples who had ommitted to get properly married trotted out " Actually we got married  a few months ago in Belfast/Donaghadee/Ireland and here's a note to prove it" !  I reckon someone was doing a roaring trade on the quayside helping couples to avoid possible censure by the church authorities!

Sheila

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Cavan / Re: Blackstocks from Cavan?
« on: Sunday 27 July 08 22:50 BST (UK)  »
Trish
I don't know if you're still out there, but if you are - I'm descended from James Blackstock and Margaret Moffat in Kirkcolm, and working on them at the moment.  Am interested to know where the Cavan link came from as I thought they were probably from Co. Down?

Hope you see this- I'd love to hear from you

Sheila

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