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I am related to at least 2 members of the Titanics crew.
Frederick Fleet...the lookout who spotted and reported the iceberg..and Able Seaman - Joseph Scarrott.

I may even be related to two more crew members, William Sivier & Bertie Wilson...both barman I think....neither survived....but both Frederick & Joseph did....both giving evidence at the enquiry.

Frederick Fleet commited suicide by hanging in 1965 after his wife died in Dec 1964..He became very depresed after her passing. His brother in law threw him out of his home to add to his woes. So Fred hung himself in his brother in laws back garden from the clothes pole.

He was buried in a paupers grave in Southampton, and until recently he didn't have a headstone. But the kind folks of the Titanic Society brought and payed for one which carries a picture of the Titanic.

Freds grt grandmother, Alice Wilson, was the sister of my grt grt grandfather William.

Hi Marcie,

I believe John DID emigrate to the US....BUT...wheres the written proof?.

Thing is..... I have corrisponed with a number of US folks with claims of links to John Gunter of Kintbury....but....none of them have written proof.
There appears to be no written documents stated John's emigration. None of them have show me proof of Johns trip to the US.

But as I say...I believe he did...dispite the lack of proof...but I would love for it to be proved by some kind of evidence. Just to be 100% sure.

I would love there to be a link....the Gunter's in the US have a very interesting history...as do the Gunter's here in the UK. With many interesting characters.

I have tried to get copies of the books "Gunters Along the Edisto" & "More Gunters Along the Edisto"...by H.F Buff ?. But they appear to be like gold dust.

One way to prove the link would be by DNA....but getting folks to part with the money for such things is not easy. And getting the right people.....male folks with the Gunter surname with lines to John...Then crossed referenced with those in the US.

I know there are a number of Studies underway....but has any of them made the link?.
Not that I know of...because of the lack of DNA donners in the UK.

I unfortunately do not carry the Gunter name..my link comes via my great grandmother on my mothers side....which makes me unsuitable for testing. Though I would like to take a test just for my own interest. And to see who else I might be related to.

May I ask where did you get the proof of your link to John.? I know a number of US Gunter's will not be convinced of the link without proof..even the most ardent genealogist..

As I say..I believe he did...even without proof...but some won't converse without pieces of paper.

The reason being...I am sure I read somewhere about John being involved with the tabacco/slave trade's...But for the life of me..I don't recall where!!!...very frustrating.

Regards
Paul

Hi Marcie....welcome to rootschat!

Are you in the UK or US?

The thing is ..so I have found ..99% of US Gunter believe they are related to the Gunters of Wales..And most seem to believe they come via John Gunter 1624 who is said to of emigrated to the US in 1644.

And I have been told that there are NO conslusive records to prove he did..This means...are those in the US related to the Gunters of Wales?...or are they of German Gunter lines which came from the UK.?

Dispite the lack of concrete proof.. I believe he did..but like others.. would like it proven to some degree.

So..connecting any US gunter to the Gunters of Wales..is speculative.

I have my line from my great grandmother's Gunter back to 1055......but I am in the UK..Scotland to be percise..though moved here in 06 from England.

Very few US Gunters claim to be from any other Gunter than John..so seems my experience of those in the US I have corrisponded with. They all seem to want to make a connection to John.

I have looked through at least one of the books you mention..should take another look.

Paul