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Travelling People / Re: Parents of Moses Smith
« on: Monday 24 March 25 02:02 GMT (UK) »
That's great, so Thomas is the son of Absolom, he will be easier to trace. Now for Silvia, I can't see a marriage for Thomas Smith and Silvia
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Travelling People / Re: Parents of Moses Smith
« on: Monday 24 March 25 01:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, both of you found the right Moses, with his mothers name as Silvia, now the hunt begins for a Thomas/Sylvia marriage and possibly an earlier marriage to a Sarah. Maybe one of the documents was mistranscribed, Silvia and Sarah could be the same person. There are many Sarah Smith deaths, picking the right one may be tricky.
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Travelling People / Parents of Moses Smith
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone,
I am hoping someone here can help me discover who the parents of Moses Smith b. 1816 Harby, Lincolnshire are. His father is listed as Thomas Smith but I can't pin down which Thomas he may be. Moses was the husband of Eldrei Gray/Mobbs, they married July - Sept 1846 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire volume 14 page 715.
Thanks in advance,
Sue
I am hoping someone here can help me discover who the parents of Moses Smith b. 1816 Harby, Lincolnshire are. His father is listed as Thomas Smith but I can't pin down which Thomas he may be. Moses was the husband of Eldrei Gray/Mobbs, they married July - Sept 1846 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire volume 14 page 715.
Thanks in advance,
Sue
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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: George Frederuck Holt
« on: Tuesday 04 February 25 15:55 GMT (UK) »
John Darley certainly didn't know what trade he wanted to be in.
In regard to his step son George I'm cursing the women in the family, too often they seem to have illegitimate children or pick the wrong type of man first time round then marry a second time and merge two families.
I do wonder if George knew who his real father was, if he can't be traced in the local archives then dna might solve it but as yet I have no matches that link to an unknown person who could be his father.
In regard to his step son George I'm cursing the women in the family, too often they seem to have illegitimate children or pick the wrong type of man first time round then marry a second time and merge two families.
I do wonder if George knew who his real father was, if he can't be traced in the local archives then dna might solve it but as yet I have no matches that link to an unknown person who could be his father.
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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: George Frederuck Holt
« on: Monday 03 February 25 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Pennines - Pork butcher and taxidermist. Maybe he stuffed the pigs 🐖 😂
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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: George Frederuck Holt
« on: Sunday 02 February 25 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone.
Carol the marriage certificate for George gives his fathers occupation as labourer. John Darley had a varied career. In 1871 he was a glass founder, in 1881 he was a pork butcher, by 1891 he was a taxidermist, in 1901 he was a dock labourer and in 1911 he was unemployed so it's possible the occupations matched but there were 1000s of labourers in the country so a made up father would have a common occupation.
Hands teulu, the baptism info is appreciated, now I can see if there is a record on ancestry.
Pennines, the county archives are a possibility, I would have to ask them to search for me as I can't travel there. John Darley may gave been his father but if Elizabeth was in a relationship with him and they intended to marry then I would have thought that John would have been on the birth certificate and George would have had his name. It's strange that in the 1871 census George is listedcas Darley but in 1881 he is Holt.
Carol the marriage certificate for George gives his fathers occupation as labourer. John Darley had a varied career. In 1871 he was a glass founder, in 1881 he was a pork butcher, by 1891 he was a taxidermist, in 1901 he was a dock labourer and in 1911 he was unemployed so it's possible the occupations matched but there were 1000s of labourers in the country so a made up father would have a common occupation.
Hands teulu, the baptism info is appreciated, now I can see if there is a record on ancestry.
Pennines, the county archives are a possibility, I would have to ask them to search for me as I can't travel there. John Darley may gave been his father but if Elizabeth was in a relationship with him and they intended to marry then I would have thought that John would have been on the birth certificate and George would have had his name. It's strange that in the 1871 census George is listedcas Darley but in 1881 he is Holt.
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Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / George Frederuck Holt
« on: Sunday 02 February 25 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,
I'm hoping someone here has advice on where I might look for a missing father.
George Frederick Holt / Hoult was born on 15th April 1864 in Conisbrough, Yorkshire. On the birth certificate his mother is Elizabeth Holt but no father is listed
On the 1871 census he is listed as George Frederick Darley, son of John and Elizabeth Darley
On the 1881 census he is back to being George Frederick Holt, stepson of John Darley
In 1893 he marries Sarah Jane Smith, on the certificate his father is listed as John Holt (I suspect this is his John Darley step father and the same is changed to Holt so as not to raise questions).
Any suggestions where I might look for details of his father would be appreciated.
Thanks
Sue
I'm hoping someone here has advice on where I might look for a missing father.
George Frederick Holt / Hoult was born on 15th April 1864 in Conisbrough, Yorkshire. On the birth certificate his mother is Elizabeth Holt but no father is listed
On the 1871 census he is listed as George Frederick Darley, son of John and Elizabeth Darley
On the 1881 census he is back to being George Frederick Holt, stepson of John Darley
In 1893 he marries Sarah Jane Smith, on the certificate his father is listed as John Holt (I suspect this is his John Darley step father and the same is changed to Holt so as not to raise questions).
Any suggestions where I might look for details of his father would be appreciated.
Thanks
Sue
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Midlothian / Re: Thomas Moffat, born 1786/1787
« on: Tuesday 18 June 24 12:14 BST (UK) »
Yes, Thomas is a real mystery, as you say the one aged 39 cant be the one I'm looking for, though neither can Captain Thomas William Moffat who died 20 November 1835, his pension record lists his widow as Martha Matilda Moffat
I will have to wait until the end of the month to buy more credits on Scotland's people and hope one of his children's baptisms, census for Helen in 1841/1851 or their marriage record gives a new clue
I will have to wait until the end of the month to buy more credits on Scotland's people and hope one of his children's baptisms, census for Helen in 1841/1851 or their marriage record gives a new clue
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Midlothian / Re: Thomas Moffat, born 1786/1787
« on: Monday 17 June 24 23:16 BST (UK) »
I cant find a death for Thomas after 1828 (when he needed to be alive for his last child to be born) and 1834 in Scotland.
However there is a record for Thomas Moffat in the Chelsea Hospital, register of pensioners on 14th October 1835. He was aged 39, born 1796 in Berwick (maybe North Berwick, East Lothian). He served 1 year underage then 2 years as Quarter Master Sergeant in the royal horse artillery. When examined he had an injury to his right shoulder and Chronic Rheumatism. To view the registration document Ancestry is sending me to Fold 3 which I don't have access to.
Also a record in WO42 File for the death of Captain Thomas William Moffat, who was in the 7th garrison Battalion and died on 20th November 1835
However there is a record for Thomas Moffat in the Chelsea Hospital, register of pensioners on 14th October 1835. He was aged 39, born 1796 in Berwick (maybe North Berwick, East Lothian). He served 1 year underage then 2 years as Quarter Master Sergeant in the royal horse artillery. When examined he had an injury to his right shoulder and Chronic Rheumatism. To view the registration document Ancestry is sending me to Fold 3 which I don't have access to.
Also a record in WO42 File for the death of Captain Thomas William Moffat, who was in the 7th garrison Battalion and died on 20th November 1835