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Kate,

Can we help? These are my wife's ancestors and I have further ancestry for them.

John Milner Stubbs

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Miller in Grinton Mystery
« on: Wednesday 12 September 12 16:11 BST (UK)  »
Hello Joolz,

Sorry, I seem to have missed this message completely. Please get back in touch.

John Milner Stubbs


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I don't want to overload this thread with my personal posts, and this is not a recent discovery, but I have had passed down to me a soldier's rolled leather pack that belonged to my 8 x gt grandfather who fought in the English Civil War with Cromwell's Parliamentary Army in the 1640's and 50's.

The leather roll contained a razor and a whetting stone for sharpening his razor, knife and sword. This was important as they cut their hair short and were clean shaven, and so became known as Roundheads, as distinct from the King's forces who favoured the aristocratic flowing locks and goatee beards of the Cavaliers.


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The wills are in the West Yorkshire County Archives and I have no idea how that happens when Swaledale is in North Yorkshire and the wills come under the Diocese of Chester.

Also, they are not in the main archives in Wakefield but in a small, anonymous redbrick depository in Chapel Town, Sheepscar, Leeds. You have to make an appointment and the staff have to go to find them and bring them to you in the reading room. Then you have to wear the cotton gloves but the staff will make photocopies for you for a fee.

If you already know the documents are there you can have the staff do a search and order photocopies online. Click the address below and follow the Leeds link.

http://www.archives.wyjs.org.uk/index.asp?pg=indexhome.htm


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We also found that on my father's side of the family they had been "Greaves" (sort of gamekeepers) of Knaresborough Forest in the 1200's, 1300's and 1400's, which in those days linked with the Great South Yorkshire Forest and Sherwood Forest in Nottinghamshire.

We now know that the Robin Hood legends were based in Yorkshire, not Nottingham. It was his enemy the Sheriff who was based there. Little John came from near Huddersfield; Robin probably did his poaching around Brighouse.

So did my ancestors spend their time chasing around after the likes of of Errol Flynn and Kevin Costner?

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My Milner ancestors were from remote Swaledale in Yorkshire. For some reason the parish was part of the diocese of the Bishop of Chester, on the other side of England.

But quite by chance I found the original will of Edmund Milner, written on calf skin vellum in Latin and dated 1500 in a dusty archive just a few miles from where I live in Leeds. I then found his son William's will too, dated 1530.

Once translated they made fascinating reading - but it was all a bit spooky, remembering that they had actually personally handled and signed those documents.

John

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Cheshire / Re: Cookson 1930/1950
« on: Saturday 12 July 08 01:42 BST (UK)  »
Cooksons in Cheshire

We have Cookson ancestors who lived in the areas of Great Barrow, Tarvin, Tarporley, Clotton, Utkinton, Little Budworth, Sandbach, Winsford and Cuddington - probably many more too.

Most of them were millers and farmers, and one of them - James Cookson - was very wealthy. He lived at Utkinton Lodge but owned Hockenhull Hall, Holmestreet Hall, Park Hall and Woodford Hall near Winsford. When he died in 1877 he left money to build the church at Cotebrook.

Anybody out there got any connections or Cookson ancestry?

Cheers,
John

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Miller in Grinton Mystery
« on: Friday 11 July 08 00:42 BST (UK)  »
Roobarb - I don't think so.

Dales Family History Society membership is quite straightforward and you can ask for regular updates on subjects you are interested in, ask a specific question and wait for answers or simply search the old messages for relevant info. You can be as involved or passive as you like.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dalesfhs/

They also have regular (I think monthly) meetings and lectures if you are close enough to attend.

Cheers,
John Milner Stubbs

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Miller in Grinton Mystery
« on: Thursday 10 July 08 16:04 BST (UK)  »
Our Swaledale Milner ancestors were always having the "n" dropped, especially in the census returns although BDM entries usually got it right. The usual mistaken entry was Miller or even Millar throughout the 19thC. My uncle William Milner was known throughout his life as Billy Miller no matter how much he protested and some of my cousins are now Millers even though they were descended from Milners.

The thing is that Milner was the usual Swaledale surname derived from the Viking word for a corn miller. If you look on the surname distribution maps the majority of Milners are from the Dales. At one time the Milners were one of the 12 big Swaledale clans but they nearly all left when the leadmining slumped.

Cheers,
John Milner Stubbs

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