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Messages - Mizelar

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Derbyshire / Re: CLARKE, Lilian, Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England
« on: Tuesday 14 April 15 00:20 BST (UK)  »
It is possible that the couple met because the groom moved to the East Midlands for better paid work.  As he comes from woodsmen, it might make sense, as the central hub of the railway was in SE Derbyshire, from 1839 onwards.  Presumably, sleepers were made locally, along with the wagons and other ancilliary industries?

Also, the Lace industry was expanding, with large mills being built.

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The Lighter Side / Re: POLL: How to pronounce Genealogy?
« on: Sunday 17 April 11 02:51 BST (UK)  »
What really infuriates, and saddens, me is the recent habit of most people, who say "Me and X are going..."

Not only is this incorrect grammar, but it demonstrates how self-centred people have become!  :'(

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The Lighter Side / Re: POLL: How to pronounce Genealogy?
« on: Saturday 16 April 11 12:47 BST (UK)  »
Jed:

I agree with you about the BBC - extremely disappointing, in recent years.  Must admit, my TV is very vu[l]nerable when I hear people praising (h)aitch D television!  >:(

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The Lighter Side / Re: POLL: How to pronounce Genealogy?
« on: Tuesday 05 April 11 00:21 BST (UK)  »
I can see that some of you are not keeping your eyes on the ball...  getting a bit distracted from our raison d'etre, are we? 

Impatiens and Clematis...  I think some of us are busy planting our hanging baskets, instead of attending to our trees!   ;D

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The Lighter Side / Re: POLL: How to pronounce Genealogy?
« on: Monday 04 April 11 12:51 BST (UK)  »
*(VERY) LATE ADDITION*

Being an incredibly tedious (so my children tell me!) pedant, I looked it up and checked all the references - like the meticulous geneAlogist that I am (not always!)  ::)

According to the OED:  Genealogy is the study and practice of drawing up family trees - to paraphrase.

It comes from the Greek - genealogia, genealogikos and the stem is genea, which means race.

And now, I am racing for the door before you all start throwing OEDs at me!  :o

Na na ner na na - missed!  ;D

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Derbyshire / Re: Puzzle - Hedley WALLISes
« on: Sunday 03 April 11 01:54 BST (UK)  »
Skewy:

Oh, I see what you mean about BLACK - silly me!

I know that the Scots used middle names according to a traditional formula, because I have also traced my paternal line from from NZ back to Stewarton, Ayrshire.  It had it's difficulties, but, luckily, my NZ ancestors generously gave each of their children a good handful of middle surnames - like a living history!  The old Welsh system was brilliant too - goodness knows how future genealogists will manage!

Thank you for the info on Park Row.  I thought at first that it might be the Convent Nursing Home, but that is at Woodthorpe.  That is where my grandparents used to go when they were ill enough.  Park Row may have been the 'Pay-Bed Block' facility which they also used.  I'll see if I can nail it.

Now my bed is definitely calling!


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Derbyshire / Re: Puzzle - Hedley WALLISes
« on: Saturday 02 April 11 23:08 BST (UK)  »
Skewy:

Thanks for the Leicester and Ipswich info - apart from the Hedley names, I've not even started on these peripherals yet.  I've already got several hundred names in the WALLIS line and that's just from Long Eaton area! 

Apart from the direct line, the top of my tree is extremely difficult to sort out, but I shall have to do it to get any further back.  Just hope I live long enough!

I knew there was probably a Leics connection because there are WALLISes in Kegworth and my GG grandmother, Catherine CLIFFORD,  came from there - hence Hedley's second name.

Thomas BLACK WALLIS is my first cousin 3 x removed and he left £37,290.17 in todays money.  Tom was a partner in WALLIS Bros who manufactured lace machines for their kin ( and others) to manufacture lace on!  Nothing like a real family business.

They must have been exceptional machines too, because, when my grandfather and his brother retired in 1968, they sold their machines to the US.

I did not realise that BLACK was a common name here in Wales.  I only know that Welsh Black fleece is very nice for my hand-spinning!

BTW, do you have a sub to A or FindMyPast?  Because I was impressed with info on Tom's address and where he died.  If you do have a sub, can you check the 1911 for 18 Park Row, please? 

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The Common Room / Re: seeking a possible death in England
« on: Saturday 02 April 11 21:32 BST (UK)  »
It is not unknown for a separated wife to say she's a widow, however, since L was a deck-chair attendant, he probably died before the advent of the plastic garden chair.

A deck-chair attendant would usually be employed by the local council, but a top-notch hotel might also have employed one.  You could make inquiries with Scarborough council to see if he was employed there.

Your note implies that L died at a hotel.  He could have been living there, if he was wealthy enough, or employed there, living in or out.  He might have died on the premises while having a drink or meal.  He may also have collapsed or been involved in an accident on the street, taken into a nearby hotel and died there.

From your note, it would either be a hotel in Scarborough or a hotel named Hotel Scarborough.

As a point of interest, did he have any family connection with Scarborough?  I did see an obituary for a Leonard Smith who died in the Scarborough area in 1889.

Best wishes.

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Derbyshire / Re: Puzzle - Hedley WALLISes
« on: Saturday 02 April 11 11:39 BST (UK)  »
Skewy:

Thanks for the head up about the CARTWRIGHTS.  Unfortunately, I am still saving for a subscription and cannot view it!  :'(

My G Grandfather, Hedley, had five children.  Two were childless, one was my grandfather, so the CARTWRIGHTS must descend from Franklin or John.  I'll see if I can find the connection elsewhere.  Maybe there's something on GR.

Thank you again for the clue.  :)

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