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Armed Forces / Re: CRIMEA - 8th HUSSARS - Enl/Disch dates
« on: Saturday 02 January 10 20:26 GMT (UK)  »
We think the badge on his right sleeve may be a padded, bulbous, Queen Victoria crown (QVC); a rank badge, signifying "Senior Sergeant" in the NSW Police; but can not be verified because of the angle of the photo. We know this photo was taken in 1876 (we know this from the Freeman catalouge at the State Library of NSW). Official NSW Police records seem to show Dalton promoted to the rank of SGT in 1868; and later to S/SGT in 1878.
However, the 1874 NSW "Distribution of Police" records, show only a S/SGT, a S/Constable and two Constables as Mounted "Orderlies to His Excellency the Governor" (no SGT) which may suggest Dalton was the "Acting S/SGT" at the time of this earlier photo and given special dispensation to wear the QVC; denoting the rank of S/SGT.

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Armed Forces / Re: CRIMEA - 8th HUSSARS - Enl/Disch dates
« on: Friday 01 January 10 01:38 GMT (UK)  »
This is the ROUNDEL helmet plate we see on DALTON'S pith style helmet (not Busby); clearly marked as "NEW SOUTH WALES POLICE"; verified under microscope by the NSW State Library. Only two originals of these helmet plates are known to still exist. One is at the Justice and Police Museum in Sydney and one is is with a GG Grandson. This plate appears clearly on two different helmets and on both Freeman "Carte de Visite's", we know exist of S/SGT Charles DALTON (NSWP); which were taken from c 1870-1880. Copies of these photos are the Mitchell Library (State Library of NSW) and Australian War Memorial. The original Freeman wet plate negative of the earlier the two photos (below) is at University of Sydney and is in their Freeman collection. The later and last family portrait by Freeman and Co (above) shows what seems to be a much older DALTON (and family) and his helmet is partially obscurred (tipped forward) and the plate not visible.

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Armed Forces / Re: CRIMEA - 8th HUSSARS - Enl/Disch dates
« on: Friday 01 January 10 01:03 GMT (UK)  »
Dalton Neville is my favorite cuz at all this...
but, a few examples of a "picture means a thousand words".

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Lancashire / Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« on: Thursday 10 July 08 03:04 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for a great site Annie.

I have had to make a few corrections given new information I have just received.

MN

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Lancashire / Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« on: Thursday 10 July 08 03:03 BST (UK)  »
He was also apparently the only original member to witness the regiment's Diamond Jubilee parade in 1945.



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Lancashire / Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« on: Thursday 10 July 08 03:02 BST (UK)  »
Charles Albin Dalton was apparently only 16 when he transferred to the newly formed Sydney Light Horse and rode in the escort on March 3 1885...with his father, Senior Sergant Dalton; who is to the back right of the Governor's carriage as it travels down George St to Circular Quay. Thanks Annie!

You probably have this already Mike ... but just in case !! .....  :)

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Another interesting appointment in 1887 was that of Charles Albin Dalton, son of Senior Sergeant Dalton of the police ( mentioned above ) ....  C. A. Dalton was born at the Government House stables and his soldiering commenced at the age of 14 when he joined the artillery as a trumpeter; when he was 16 he transferred to the newly formed Sydney Light Horse and rode in the escort on March 3 1885. In 1887 he enlisted as a permanent soldier and was appointed to the permanent staff of the cavalry as trumpet-major and orderly room clerk (General Order No. 128). He was a man of strong character and a keen soldier. After about 20 years with the regiment he was transferred to the Mounted Rifles as regimental sergeant-major and later helped to train light horsemen in Victoria and Queensland also. He was the only original member to witness the regiment's Diamond Jubilee parade in 1945


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Lancashire / Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« on: Thursday 10 July 08 02:34 BST (UK)  »
Yep, that's him seated bottom right....with the trumpet...of course! VERY sad about Clive. Thanks Annie,

This is old NSW Government House Barracks and Stables (where they lived and were born) with the new Conservatorium Of Music next to it today.

You probably have this already Mike ... but just in case !! .....  :)

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Another interesting appointment in 1887 was that of Charles Albin Dalton, son of Senior Sergeant Dalton of the police ( mentioned above ) ....  C. A. Dalton was born at the Government House stables and his soldiering commenced at the age of 14 when he joined the artillery as a trumpeter; when he was 16 he transferred to the newly formed Sydney Light Horse and rode in the escort on March 3 1885. In 1887 he enlisted as a permanent soldier and was appointed to the permanent staff of the cavalry as trumpet-major and orderly room clerk (General Order No. 128). He was a man of strong character and a keen soldier. After about 20 years with the regiment he was transferred to the Mounted Rifles as regimental sergeant-major and later helped to train light horsemen in Victoria and Queensland also. He was the only original member to witness the regiment's Diamond Jubilee parade in 1945

http://authenticrepro.com/lancers.html

Name - Clive Malcolm Dalton, Sergeant, 4th Australian Light Horse died 12 Aug 1915 age 21. Parents - Son of Charles Albin Dalton and Amy Dalton of Victoria Barracks Sydney NSW. Burial - Alexandria Egypt.

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Lancashire / Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« on: Thursday 10 July 08 02:24 BST (UK)  »

Mrs Chas. A Dalton (as did her mother Jessie) loved playing the piano and writing music and she would have thought it wonderful the their old home (the NSW Governor's Escort Barracks in Maquarie St, Sydney) is now part of the NSW Conversatorium of Music.

You probably have this already Mike ... but just in case !! .....  :)

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Another interesting appointment in 1887 was that of Charles Albin Dalton, son of Senior Sergeant Dalton of the police ( mentioned above ) ....  C. A. Dalton was born at the Government House stables and his soldiering commenced at the age of 14 when he joined the artillery as a trumpeter; when he was 16 he transferred to the newly formed Sydney Light Horse and rode in the escort on March 3 1885. In 1887 he enlisted as a permanent soldier and was appointed to the permanent staff of the cavalry as trumpet-major and orderly room clerk (General Order No. 128). He was a man of strong character and a keen soldier. After about 20 years with the regiment he was transferred to the Mounted Rifles as regimental sergeant-major and later helped to train light horsemen in Victoria and Queensland also. He was the only original member to witness the regiment's Diamond Jubilee parade in 1945

http://authenticrepro.com/lancers.html

Name - Clive Malcolm Dalton, Sergeant, 4th Australian Light Horse died 12 Aug 1915 age 21. Parents - Son of Charles Albin Dalton and Amy Dalton of Victoria Barracks Sydney NSW. Burial - Alexandria Egypt.


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Lancashire / Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« on: Thursday 10 July 08 02:19 BST (UK)  »

Yep, I think that's him seated bottom right....with the trumpet...of course! VERY sad about Clive. Thanks Annie,

You probably have this already Mike ... but just in case !! .....  :)

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Another interesting appointment in 1887 was that of Charles Albin Dalton, son of Senior Sergeant Dalton of the police ( mentioned above ) ....  C. A. Dalton was born at the Government House stables and his soldiering commenced at the age of 14 when he joined the artillery as a trumpeter; when he was 16 he transferred to the newly formed Sydney Light Horse and rode in the escort on March 3 1885. In 1887 he enlisted as a permanent soldier and was appointed to the permanent staff of the cavalry as trumpet-major and orderly room clerk (General Order No. 128). He was a man of strong character and a keen soldier. After about 20 years with the regiment he was transferred to the Mounted Rifles as regimental sergeant-major and later helped to train light horsemen in Victoria and Queensland also. He was the only original member to witness the regiment's Diamond Jubilee parade in 1945

http://authenticrepro.com/lancers.html

Name - Clive Malcolm Dalton, Sergeant, 4th Australian Light Horse died 12 Aug 1915 age 21. Parents - Son of Charles Albin Dalton and Amy Dalton of Victoria Barracks Sydney NSW. Burial - Alexandria Egypt.


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