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Australia / Re: Emma SPRAGGS
« on: Friday 21 May 10 17:06 BST (UK)  »
Jenn, yes you are perfectly correct, of course! Thanks for putting me right! However, I suspect it would still have been quite dangerous and avant-garde for a young, single woman to travel on her own in those times and to support herself once she arrived.

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Australia / Re: Emma SPRAGGS
« on: Tuesday 11 May 10 14:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Anna
What you have told me is very interesting. My mother's cousin, Joan Spraggs, is the one who did all the research which she originally gave freely and in good faith to other Spraggs' family members in Australia. She spent many years of her life travelling all over the UK to collect information which is now on various people's trees, as she never had a computer and had to do all her research in person. I know she was very angry when the people she informed made it generally available on the web because it was her life's work and she had intended to write a book on the subject. They really had no right to make it general knowledge.
As she never married and had children and her only brother's children did not really have much interest in her research at the time, she passed me a copy of all her notes and research to keep safe with the proviso it was not to be given to anyone without her permission. I had not even shared it with my own brothers. However, that has now all gone by the board because of the sharing of info. by the people she originally gave the information to and the launch of the web sites such as ancestry. She is now a very frail old lady and somewhat confused, but I am still in contact with her. So much of the info. is thanks to her dedication.

Would it be possible for me to have a copy of her diary also? I could then show Joan and this may go someway towards compensating her. I would be happy to pay postage etc.  She did get as far as knowing she emigrated to Australia, but beyond that, research became impossible as she could not visit Australia and the research sites did not then exist.

I can also help you with where the English side of the family are now.
I mentioned convicts because, of course, some of the fellow passengers would have been prisoners being deported to serve their sentences in Australian prisons set up by the British Government.








 



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Australia / Re: Emma Spraggs
« on: Monday 10 May 10 13:16 BST (UK)  »
Hello Anna

Emma Spraggs born in 1856 in Chatham was a the sister of my great  grandfather on my mother's side. I knew she emigrated to Austrailia after 1881 and had a child there called Adelaide May (presumably after the place she settled in). Her mother remarried and on the 1881 English census she is shown as a Tailoress (aged 25) living with them. Her relationship is given as step daughter. She then emigrated, but I do not know the exact date which perhaps you can help me with. I also know from someone else's tree that she was quite a pioneer (a single woman travelling on her own with convicts!) and made all her own furniture etc. After that, I know nothing about her or what happened to her daughter or family. It would be great if you could help me with the Australian side as you are obviously her descendent. I can help you with some of the English side. As you can see from the other posts, people have been very kind in researching for me to try and solve the puzzle about what happened to both Emma and Adelaide as they both seem to  have vanished once they arrived in Austrailia. Would be great to solve our puzzle too.

best wishes Audrey

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Fife / Re: FIFE Death Index pre 1855
« on: Tuesday 05 August 08 21:25 BST (UK)  »
John's death certificate gives mother as Isobel (Isabel) Black ms Lowson or Lawson, which gives he impression they did marry! However, it could have been she just took his name for convenience and appearances I suppose especially as the info. was given by the son.

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Fife / Re: FIFE Death Index pre 1855
« on: Tuesday 05 August 08 13:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi Diddy

Thanks for your help. The death you found for John Black could certainly be his father. Makes sense he had the same name as son and same profession and birthplace. I had not actually discovered his parentage yet.

Re. Isobel Lowson - this is a bit of a mystery!  I have been unable to locate a marriage listing for John Black and Isobel Lowson but do have a birth listing for their son John born in Torryburn 11/11/1810. I also have the death certificate of John (younger) which states his mother and father were John Black and Isobel Lowson. Could be they never married!  However, have found a marriage between a John Black and Isobel Crawford in Torryburn 30/6/1810. Also a birth certificate for 28/10/1770 which gives details of Isabel Crawford having a child Mary Isabel by John Black the younger, a twister in Dunfermline, born illigitimately. The 3 families do seem linked somehow, but how?  Have looked at birth of Isobel Lowson and found a birth certificate for 15/4/1784 in Torryburn - parents George Lowson and Margaret Reid but not sure if this is the same one!  All a bit of a muddle!

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Fife / Re: FIFE Death Index pre 1855
« on: Monday 04 August 08 17:04 BST (UK)  »
Thaks for your help. Don't think either of these is the one as John Black was definitely a weaver.  Am having real problems with this lady. Think she may have sometimes used the name Crawford and not Lowson. Would it be possible to look under that surname for me too please? Sometimes spelt Crauford or Crawfurd. Thanks.

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Fife / Re: FIFE Death Index pre 1855
« on: Monday 04 August 08 13:21 BST (UK)  »
May I please ask for a lookup for the death of Isabel (Isabella) Black nee Lowson (Lawson) born 15/04/1784 Torryburn, baptised 18/04/1784. She married John Black in Torryburn 30/06/1810. 
 
Thanks for any help you can give.

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Berkshire Lookup Requests / Jane Stratford
« on: Friday 25 July 08 04:11 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone do a lookup please for birth of Jane Stratford born about 1845 in Lambourn (given as Sambourn on 51 census)? I am trying to find out her parentage. In 1851 she is shown living in West Shefford as 'daughter-in-law' of James Cleverly. On the 1861 census she is shown as Jane Cleverly and living in West Shefford. Presumably she took her stepfather's name. However, I can find no record of her birth which fits the dates.

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Australia / Re: Emma Spraggs
« on: Friday 18 July 08 12:16 BST (UK)  »
Another thought!  Perhaps she married and the daughter took the father's name as well.  Or worse scenario, she/both died. You people are amazing! What a great site! Can't believe people are so prepared to give up their valuable time in this day and age to help others research.  Thanks so much!!

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