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Armed Forces / Re: Age to join the Navy
« on: Friday 14 March 25 19:22 GMT (UK)  »
Seaman Class Boys - Boys were entered between the ages of 15 and 16 1/2.

Unlike Boy Seamen, cooks were not recruited as boys but as direct entries into the Navy at adulthood from age 18 - 23.

From age 18 they could change to a Continuous Service Engagement for 12 years service. They could then take their pension but were usually required to enroll in the Royal Fleet Reserve or they could opt to extend their service if fully fit with Admiralty approval. No seaman could normally serve beyond age 50.

George Herbert Fluke joined the RN on 26th May 1914 on a Continuous Service Engagement.

Regards
Hugh

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Ruhleben Internment camp, Germany, WW1
« on: Thursday 27 February 25 07:44 GMT (UK)  »
George Roberts was born in 1857 and I presume it is G Roberts, ships officer (2nd Mate), 51 Bede St, Tyne Docks, South Shields (Released 21/12/1915) that you are interested in.
He was aboard the steamship FLEETWING, official number, 125421, detained 4 August 1914.

Quote from: tonepad
G. G. Roberts, of Holyhead, was named in a list of merchant seamen interned at Ruhleben, as published by the Scotsman newspaper on 7/1/1915 (p.7).

This was 2nd Mate, G.G. Roberts who was aboard CITY OF CADIZ, official number, 45019. Steamship detained 4 August 1914. I believe this is not the man the op is searching for.

Regards
Hugh

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World War Two / Re: WRENS in Birmingham
« on: Thursday 20 February 25 19:48 GMT (UK)  »
I am not sure if this has changed but nevertheless it is still listed as a requirement on the form, so I would suggest the d.c. copy is required to ensure nothing is held back.

Quote from: .Gov
You do not have to provide a death certificate. But without one, information may be withheld unless the person either:

    died in service
    was born more than 116 years ago

Regards
Hugh

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World War Two / Re: WRENS in Birmingham
« on: Thursday 20 February 25 18:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I don't think it is worth speculating where in Birmingham she may have served or in which capacity. Have you thought about applying for her service record which is held with the Ministry of Defence. Full name and date of birth required but service number not necessary. Copy of death certificate required to get full details.
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-records-of-service/apply-for-the-records-of-a-deceased-serviceperson
Regards
Hugh

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World War Two / Re: Naval record WW11
« on: Thursday 20 February 25 06:14 GMT (UK)  »
This was an accounting and admin base for all Royal Australian Navy personnel who were loaned to RN ships.

The London Depot sometimes referred to as HMA London Depot, was based at Australia House, the location of the Australian High Commission in the Strand, London. W.C.2.

Regards
Hugh

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Armed Forces / Re: Mercantile Marine Reserve, WW1
« on: Friday 31 January 25 19:02 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Runner55 on Friday 31 January 25 17:03 GMT (UK)
Mark's MMR service record number on the 1926 Admiralty medal-award letter is 924086.  (His regular Irish Merchant Navy number post-WW1 is 422907.)
Hi,

His service number (In the Merchant Navy is called his discharge book number or (Dis. A) It was always 924086. The other number 422907 is his R.S.2 number or Identity and Service Certificate. He actually had another R.S.2 number which was 332333 which was cancelled in favour of 422907.
He has two CR 10 cards - one was cancelled - I presume you have seen those with ID photo held in the Fourth Register of Seamen with copies on £FindMyPast.
They show he served aboard the tanker HOTHAM NEWTON joining in January 1919 and in November 1919 he joined STOCKPORT.

You could try obtaining the crew agreement for HOTHAM NEWTON for the year 1919 as the previous ship is given in one of the columns of the agreement. I can only see the extract of the official logbook available for voyages beginning 23 January 1919 so he may be on that sailing. The crew agreement is actually part of the official logbook so it may be present in that file. Probably best viewed by visit to Kew unless you have a researcher or someone who knows there way around those files who can visit for you. They are filed for the whole year.

BT 165/1904 - https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1733763

Ship's Name Hotham Newton Official Number 98780 Dates of Voyage 23 January 1919 - 16 April 1919.

Regards
Hugh

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Armed Forces / Re: Mercantile Marine Reserve, WW1
« on: Friday 31 January 25 16:42 GMT (UK)  »
Not much is known about the Mercantile Marine Reserve and they have no surviving personal records - the only real record to survive are the medal cards. 
You may of course find him via Merchant Navy crew lists if you know some ship names but to be honest this group are really very difficult to research.

Happy to check if I had a name and dob but even then very doubtful.

Regards
Hugh

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Merchant navy
« on: Friday 10 January 25 15:11 GMT (UK)  »
If he served after January 1941, his service record will be held at TNA Kew in piece BT 382/1355 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10989580

The file is held in a box of up to 60 other names so best obtained by visit to Kew or via a researcher. You could also use the Kew research services but I am not sure how much they would charge you to get the file. Any records prior to January 1941 you will need to take a different approach.

Regards
Hugh

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Merchant navy
« on: Friday 03 January 25 01:01 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
His records for his MN service will depend on when he left the service. He could have joined circa the mid 1920's but if he left prior to 1941 then you need to check the Fourth Register of Seamen. If he served into the war then his records or at least those from January 1941 will be held in the Fifth Register of Seamen. The Fifth Register continued until 1972.
So do you know when he left sea service?
Stevedore time will not be recorded in those records.

I am not at home at the moment and a cursory check finds nothing but I will do a proper check when I can and let you know. Also, do you know where he was born?

Regards
Hugh

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