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Armed Forces / Re: R.q. on a Royal Navy record
« on: Tuesday 01 July 25 08:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
R.Q. on a Royal Navy service record means Run (with a query). It means any man below the rank of officer belonging to a ship under sailing orders who is absent without leave (AWOL). The captain is to place an R.Q. against his name on the ships books. The captain can remove same if he is returned or apprehended and an investigation finds the man did not deliberately desert.

Should there be clear proof that any such absentee had intended to desert he is to be summarily dealt with for desertion and an R substituted for the R.Q. on ships books.
Regards
Hugh 

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World War Two / Re: HMS MILE? WW2
« on: Monday 19 May 25 12:56 BST (UK)  »
HMS NILE was the RN base at Ras el Tin Point, Alexandria. Commissioned 24.4.1939 and paid off 30.6.1946. It was also the accounting base for most of the personnel in the Eastern Med during WW2.
Regards
Hugh

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World War One / Re: Royal Navy Reserves Records Abbreviations Help Please
« on: Monday 19 May 25 12:04 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: AllanUK on Sunday 18 May 25 13:35 BST (UK)
Walter died late 1921, I would suggest that I.C. 481/1922 was a reference number to show that his medals were issued in 1922

it is not a reference to medals issued.

The Index Casualty (IC) Refers to relevant N.L. (Wills paper) so it is a reference to a deceased person the number being the index casualty number in the Naval Record of Wills. The IC has not survived and does not lead to any further records.

Regards
Hugh

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Merchant Navy records from 1920s & 30s - CR docs,crew lists & individual records
« on: Monday 12 May 25 11:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi Nick,
With regard to KIRKLAND and JAMACIA PIONEER - I find it strange that on both you got a negative.

The ship's Official Logbook which (includes the crew agreements) cover a whole year and has a lot of sections to it - the crew agreements being only one. It is important that the person doing the checking knows what they are looking for. He is engaged on JAMAICA PIONEER [assuming that official number is correct] on 12 January 1939 so a look at the first voyage around that date is required. It would always be best to be able to visit TNA (I know this is a problem for many people including me) and you have to rely on the person doing the check. All I will say is that I have been in your shoes and getting someone else to look came up with the goods.

Regards
Hugh

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Merchant Navy records from 1920s & 30s - CR docs,crew lists & individual records
« on: Monday 12 May 25 09:11 BST (UK)  »
Hello Nick,

CR1, 2 and 10 cards are from the Fourth Register of Seamen otherwise known as the Central Index Register. He will not have a CR10 unless he served between 1918-1921.

CR2 cards record foreign voyages so I am not sure what Newfoundland mean when they say he was HT articles. That card indicates if correctly written up than he was foreign at the time. The otherside of the CR2 also has an engagement date of 25 October 1925 so obviously sailed on previous voyages.

Did you ask TNA Kew to check this file BT 381/353 (1939 Crew Agreement for JAMAICA PIONEER) which I believe will  be the key to finding his service back to 1927.

Not all seaman's pouches survive unfortunately and appears his didn't so it will be unlikely you will find a photo in MN records.

Regards
Hugh

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Occupation Interests / Re: Merchant Seamen - useful link
« on: Monday 12 May 25 09:10 BST (UK)  »
Moderator please delete my last it was posted in the wrong place - sorry.

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Occupation Interests / Re: Merchant Seamen - useful link
« on: Monday 12 May 25 09:07 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

CR1, 2 and 10 cards are from the Fourth Register of Seamen otherwise known as the Central Index Register. He will not have a CR10 unless he served between 1918-1921.

CR2 cards record foreign voyages so I am not sure what Newfoundland mean when they say he was HT articles. That card indicates if correctly written up than he was foreign at the time. The otherside of the CR2 also has an engagement date of 25 October 1925 so obviously sailed on previous voyages.

Did you ask TNA Kew to check this file BT 381/353 (1939 Crew Agreement for JAMAICA PIONEER) which I believe will  be the key to finding his service back to 1927.

Not all seaman's pouches survive unfortunately and appears his didn't so it will be unlikely you will find a photo in MN records.

Regards
Hugh

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Armed Forces / Re: Age to join the Navy
« on: Friday 14 March 25 19:22 GMT (UK)  »
Seaman Class Boys - Boys were entered between the ages of 15 and 16 1/2.

Unlike Boy Seamen, cooks were not recruited as boys but as direct entries into the Navy at adulthood from age 18 - 23.

From age 18 they could change to a Continuous Service Engagement for 12 years service. They could then take their pension but were usually required to enroll in the Royal Fleet Reserve or they could opt to extend their service if fully fit with Admiralty approval. No seaman could normally serve beyond age 50.

George Herbert Fluke joined the RN on 26th May 1914 on a Continuous Service Engagement.

Regards
Hugh

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Ruhleben Internment camp, Germany, WW1
« on: Thursday 27 February 25 07:44 GMT (UK)  »
George Roberts was born in 1857 and I presume it is G Roberts, ships officer (2nd Mate), 51 Bede St, Tyne Docks, South Shields (Released 21/12/1915) that you are interested in.
He was aboard the steamship FLEETWING, official number, 125421, detained 4 August 1914.

Quote from: tonepad
G. G. Roberts, of Holyhead, was named in a list of merchant seamen interned at Ruhleben, as published by the Scotsman newspaper on 7/1/1915 (p.7).

This was 2nd Mate, G.G. Roberts who was aboard CITY OF CADIZ, official number, 45019. Steamship detained 4 August 1914. I believe this is not the man the op is searching for.

Regards
Hugh

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