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Hi

Firstly, yes, I must apologise I should have tagged this onto the previous post, but we had moved on slightly from then, so I thought I would have to start over again.

Secondly, we have searched for the person using the details he knew about himself for his original birth registration and were unable to locate it.
I did mention this to the intermediary and she replied;

If it is in the public domain and you know the details you can, but if the person was adopted and you are trying to find their original birth certificate then you cannot as special forms have to be filled in for the Home Office/GRO.

Some people know their original identity in which case they already hold the information.

So, from that I'm guessing that this may be why the original cannot be traced?

Would you agee?

Sue

Sorry to disagree with the intermediary.  His original birth will have been registered. Therefore, it will appear in the indexes. This item can be ordered. 

When a  person is legally adopted they are given an adoption certificate this supersedes the original b/c for legal purposes.  The original b/c will be marked in the lower right hand corner 'adopted'.  And just for clarity legal adoption was established with the Adoption of Children Act 1926, which came into effect on January 1, 1927. 

So, was he legally adopted?  Have you looked for him in the GRO index using his 'adopted' name just in case?  Just a thought??

CD

I may be incorrect here -  but I thought Hilary was a lawyer before her marriage and she used the name Hilary Rodham in that capacity (before marriage). It was therefore her professional name and once married she just added her married surname 'Clinton' to it. 

Lots of women retain their maiden name for profession purposes. I don't think its any sort of naming pattern.

Thanks for your helpful reply - yes very familiar with the NLI and Irish Ancestors databases. But that is really interesting that the tendency was not to keep burial records.

There is a complete absences of records for the particular family I am looking for which made we wonder the circumstances of some of the parish records.  The Castletara parish is definitely worth a look. And I had wondered about any records being in local custody.

So slightly different question for you (and others) what do you think would be the youngest age that someone could register a death in Ireland?

Thanks again
CD

Hi Fran

I think so, but don't know definitely. But, that's what it seems to indicate. Also, I'm not sure about Scotland but in England the cost of a 'family plot' was expensive and therefore many many people were buried in a 'common grave' as money was hard to come by. Burial in a 'common grave' still had to be paid for, it was not a 'paupers grave'. The people buried in a common grave were people who all died at roughly the same time.  A grave could hold about 10-12 adults and then closed. But could hold many more if they were infants or children.  In terms of where he died that would not matter (i.e. a hospital or home). I imagine it would have been a financial decision.

CD

Okay, I can offer up the following information for you - the graveyard was closed before 1933 and landscaped over in the '70s. No known MI's.

I would contact the 'new' church on Clive Road and see what they know. They might have inherited some information.

CD