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John Duggan Son of John Duggan and Margaret Kilkenny.....Born Feb 20th 1898 in the Quarry Hill area of Leeds.  He emigrated to Chicago, Illinois, USA in Sept 1913.  Anyone knowing anything about this man please get in touch.  He is the missing link to my family tree.....Regards, Carol

Hi Angie

The Irish usually guessed at their ages and ages were often mis-judged by 10 years either side....I have just been looking at the BMD on ancestry and there are 2 possibilities for your John and your Patrick....Firstly, John Kilkenny born about 1842, Death July 1915, Bury Lancs.....Secondly Patrick Kilkenny, Born about 1866, Death June 1919 Bury, Lancs...

If this Patrick is the brother of John than he was definately born earlier than 1866...The informant of the Death either guessed the age or if it went to the Coroner then the Coroner would have performed an autopsy and summised the age too....This is exactly what happened with my own G G Grandfather (who was also Patrick Kilkenny) in Leeds in 1911.....The cornoner underestimated his age by a good 6-10 years..... 

Oh and by the way I have the Death Certs for both Patrick Kilkenny and Mary Cunnane Kilkenny.....Let me know if you need death info....

Hi Angie...I am 99% certain that you are from the Liscat Kilkenny family.....Patrick Kilkenny and Mary Cunnane had many children....According to public member trees that i have seen online at ancestry.co.uk they had a John and a Patrick who went to England (Lancashire)... Im certain this will be your John and your Patrick....

I have studied these Kilkenny families for years and only recently found out which family I am descended from which is NOT the Liscat Kilkennys....

Patrick K of Liscat had a brother named James Kilkenny who lived in Killeen Townland, Knock Co Mayo.....Patrick and James's Father was John.  You can see him (John) on the 1856 Griffiths Valuation living in the Killeen Townland in Knock Parish.  Your John will have been named after his Grandfather (John of Killeen) and your Patrick will have been named after his Father (Patrick of Liscat).

I have much information on both the Liscat and Killeen Kilkennys if you need any information please feel free to contact me.....

Regards, Carol 

Oh I've just seen a reply to you from an MK1 on the last posting you did on this forum.....You must contact him.  He is a descendent of Patrick Kilkenny and Mary Cunnane Kilkenny of Liscat, Knock, Co Mayo....He states that Patrick and Mary did indeed have Sons named John and Patrick!!!!!  MK1 is a descendent of their other Son named Michael.....

Good luck!