Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - molliedog

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 ... 7
1
Cork / Honora Buckley convicted Cork 1836
« on: Tuesday 02 August 11 05:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I am trying to trace any information on a Honora/ Hannah Buckley who was a native of and was tried at Cork on the 4th April 1836 and transported to Australia for 7 years (religion RC).
I have searched the Irish/Australia convict database but she is not listed on it unfortunately.
She was born about 1814 according to transportation records and at the time was married with 1 male child, whom she would never had seen again. I would love to be able to find out more about her as there is nothing here in the Australian records (she died in a mental assylum, so no further details are known).
Any help greatly appreciated.
Kind regards,
Kristy

2
Northamptonshire / Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« on: Thursday 21 July 11 00:18 BST (UK)  »
Sorry for the confusion. From the baptism information you sent through for Ann it lhad listed Thomas as a Shoemaker, but maybe it was meant to be shepherd. This would actually fit better as his son John is also listed in the census as a shepherd in Bedfordshire/Hertfordshire after 1841.

3
Northamptonshire / Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« on: Tuesday 19 July 11 23:26 BST (UK)  »
Back to scrolling through Eaton Socon today!! It looks like that could be my Thomas, but unfortunately no leeds as to where he came from. On Mary's or Ann's baptism it lists his occupation as a shoe maker, but on the death record of his son Thomas it lists soldier, so who knows....maybe he was both???

Thanks for linking other topics....hopefully we are getting somewhere!!

4
Cheshire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Acton St Mary's lookup please
« on: Tuesday 19 July 11 23:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for trying Kath.
I guess its back to the drawing board again!!

5
Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Eaton Socon lookup please
« on: Tuesday 19 July 11 23:15 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the information. It would seem that Susannah and her son were married on the same day!!

6
Bedfordshire Lookup Requests / Eaton Socon lookup please
« on: Tuesday 19 July 11 05:30 BST (UK)  »
I am after any more information if possible please on the burial of a Thomas Ball in Eaton Socon on 4/9/1833. Also the marriage of his widow, Susannah Ball to John Shepherd (widow) in 1836.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Kristy

7
Northamptonshire / Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« on: Tuesday 19 July 11 01:04 BST (UK)  »
My best guess at the moment is this. When the family got the removal order from Denford in 1818, they went back through Wellingborough on the way. Here Elizabeth would have still had grandparents (Susannah's parents as she was from Wellingborough) and then she married, with Mary as a witness. She is there until 1866 when she dies. Mary kept going to Eaton Socon where she married and died.
Thomas either decided to stay in Wellingborough too, or returned there after going to Eaton Socon, as he was involved in the offence there in 1822 (which resulted in 3 people being hung). He did get his sentence changed to transportation (have this information on Ancestry on my tree) for 14 years I think it was. There is also an article I found on the trial from a paper there which lists all the details about what happened. I think they took pity on the 2 youngest offerders, but the older ones were not so lucky.
I guess the next thing is wether the parents stayed in Eaton Socon, or did they return to Northamptonshire? All the children seemed t be accounted for now, but still no elusive parents!!
I am glad it seems just as confusing and frusterating to you. I have been search for Thomas's parents for 3 years now, and the name changes drive you crazy. I think there are about 5 different versions of Bales once he gets to OZ!!

Have since found a Thomas ball died Eaton Socon 1833 and then a Susannah Ball widow marrying a John Shepherd, widow in Eaton Socon in 1836. looks like this could be it.

8
Northamptonshire / Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« on: Sunday 17 July 11 23:36 BST (UK)  »
Well I think that confirms the Bale/Ball issue. Confirmation of the baptisms of Mary and Ann together with the removal order from the National Archives which lists them as Bale means I definitely have the right family, now all I have to do is find tha elusive thomas!!.
Most of the children seem to have gone with them to Eaton Socon, as I have marriage and burial records for them there. The son Thomas must have ended up back in Wellingborough, as that is where he is convicted. I will go and check the census lists for Elizabeth,as I have another possibility for her as an Elizabeth Bale married in Wellingborough in 1818 and from census records she was born there too (which my Elizabeth was).
I also found a death for a Thomas Ball in Eaton Socon in 1824, but there is also one for Denford in 1833. Not sure what to do about that. From the ages they could both be possibilities, but the Denford one is more likely?!?!?

Census not much help. Elizabeth died 1843 in Islip/Thrapston so still not sure where she was born.

9
Northamptonshire / Re: Bale/s Wellingborough area
« on: Saturday 16 July 11 23:36 BST (UK)  »
Hi sandy,
No I'm not offended. Any help at this stage is appreciated.
I think I can safely rule out the Bates connection, it was a long shot and from further research it is very unlikely. The Ball (which can be confused with Bale, particularly the way in which it is written in the old documents), is a real possibility, I think.
All I have that is concrete on this family is the birth of Thomas Bales in Wellingborough in 1803 to Thomas and Susannah. This Thomas was a convict and was sent to Australia in 1822 and is my husbands direct relative. On his death certificate it lists parents as Thomas and Susannah with his fathers occupation as a soldier. Now all this, appart from the soldier thing, appears to be correct.
You then found Susannah Toby (Bale) birth in Wellingborough, so her birth is known, and this is basically all I have.
From searching the national archives I found a removal to order for a Thomas Bale, Susannah and 3 children from Denford to Eaton Socon in 1818. This I am fairly sure is them. Now while the name appears to have a change here to Ball it fits with the birth of the 2 younger children as an Ann Ball was baptised in Denford by Thomas and Susanna in 1817 and a John Ball from all thie census is listed as being born in Denford at the same time as well. This is helped by the fact that these Ball children are then found in the census's in Eaton Socon where they married and then the 2 girls died.
If this is correct then the parents might well be Bedfordshire too, but I have found no trace so far, under Bale or Ball.

So thats the story and all I have.Hope this all makes scense!!
Kind regards,
Kristy







Pages: [1] 2 3 4 ... 7