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England / Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« on: Tuesday 03 June 08 03:13 BST (UK)  »
G'day All,

I still think that my earlier suggestion on Janet Paton born and baptised in Gorbals in 1817 is a very good possibility, given that "our" Janet paton married in Gorbals - and birth dates get muddled over time, particularly when people were illiterate.

This Janet has a father Robert Paton - probably Robert George Paton born in Gorbals  in 1777 to George Paton and Helen McGee.
The names Helen/Ellen and George are used by Janet and John for their elder children, I know it is not precisely following conventions but there are various reasons for not doing so, inlcuding the recent death of a relative etc.  If our Janet's father is Robert George then using George for the first son of the second mariage makes it a pretty good match I think.  Gorabls is not all that far from Paisley as well.

My ealier post information on this Janet Paton was as follows:
"There is a Janet Paton born 18th July 1817 and baptised 31st July 1817 in Gorbals, Lanarkshire, her parents were Robert Paton and Jean Inglis who were married on the 6th December 1813.  I haven't found any siblings for Janet but they may have been baptised in nearby church as this was an area with a rapidly growing population due to the development of factories in this period.  This Janet's father is probably Robert George Paton, born 18th May 1777 and baptised on the 28th May 1777 in Gorbals. His parents are George Paton and Helen McGee.  I've found three other children for this couple, Robert born 1771, Barbara born 1774 and  George, born 1775, all baptised in Gorgals.

I haven't found anything on Jean Inglis."

Regards,
Marg

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England / Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« on: Sunday 01 June 08 00:46 BST (UK)  »
G'day All,

There is a Janet Paton born 18th July 1817 and baptised 31st July 1817 in Gorbals, Lanarkshire, her parents were Robert Paton and Jean Inglis who were married on the 6th December 1813.  I haven't found any siblings for Janet but they may have been baptised in nearby church as this was an area with a rapidly growing population due to the development of factories in this period.  This Janet's father is probably Robert George Paton, born 18th May 1777 and baptised on the 28th May 1777 in Gorbals. His parents are George Paton and Helen McGee.  I've found three other children for this couple, Robert born 1771, Barbara born 1774 and  George, born 1775, all baptised in Gorgals.

I haven't found anything on Jean Inglis

While Janet is listed as 20 years old on the 1841 Census remember that that Census rounded ages up and down usually to the nearest  10, and sometimes to a 5.

I think this is most likely your Janet Paton and I don't think there is any connection with the Alloa Patons.  Gorbals is just south west of Glasgow and Alloa is north east of Stirling and while that only takes about an hour to drive today it was an enormous distance in the early 1800's when walking was the common mode of travel.

As I have already mentioned I have researched the Alva/Tillicoultry/Alloa Patons back to 1700 and there is no connection to the Lanark Patons in that period.  My research on this has been confirmed by that of a friend who is a descendant of the Lanark Patons.
I think it highly unlikey that either of the Paton brothers who established and buit up  the Paton mills would be leaving an inheritance to a woman to whom they had no connection in the previous 150 years when they had direct descendants of their own, as well as many closer relations.

While it is highly likely that your Janet had an inheritence to collect in Scotland I think you can discount it being part of the Paton's knitting fortune!

Glasgow and surrounds was a rapidly growing area in the first part of the 19th century - there were many woollen mills around that area  and it is quite likely that a close relation of your Janet Paton did make money from this industry in the Glasgow area.

Regards,
Marg
Australia

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England / Re: Mystery of the Grieving Patton Heiress
« on: Friday 30 May 08 16:41 BST (UK)  »
G'day All,

I received a message via Genes Reunited from Lumber Jack about a Janet Paton.  I am the great great grand daughter of a Janet Paton born in 1799 in Alva.  I spent several weeks in Scotland researching this line of my family in 2005.   

A few things that may help you - the Renfrewshire and Lanarkshire Patons have no connection to the Alva & Tillicoultry Patons back to around 1700 that I could find. 

Patons were the biggest Mill owners of the Alva /Tillicoultry/Alloa area and my family are on the poor relation side of the family - our connection is in the early 1700's  which was before the Industrial Revolution when all the woollen manufacture was done as a cottage industry, my Janet's father was actually a distillery worker near Alva and his father was a "feuar" or small landholder/farmer of Tillicoultry. The Alva and Tillicoultry Patons are my family.  It was the Alloa line that became the Mill owners.

As far as I can recall there weren't any missing heiresses to the Paton fortune as far as my research went with them.

Your Janet Paton would have migrated under her own name of Janet Paton not Janet Beaton because Scottish women retained their own name all their lives - it was only after statutory registrations started under English Law that bureaucrats started using the English practise  of giving women their husbands name.  My Janet Paton's parents grave stone of 1828 in the Old Alva Cemetery lists Anne MCGregor and her  husband John Paton The Old Parish Records show baptisms with the full names of parents eg "Janet Paton, lawful daughter of John Paton and Anne McGregor spouses" or variations of this.

I'll have a look at my notes and records over the weekend and see if I can find a connection to the Janet Paton you are trying to trace with my family, however because of the Scottish naming pattern, which my family followed rigorously there are several Janet Patons in my records. 

Hope this may be of some use to you in your search.

Marg
Australia

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