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Fife / Re: MI for Kettle
« on: Saturday 06 September 08 06:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

    I think we should hasten to add some information about Andrew ORFORD's first marriage to allay anyones dismay at his apparent indiscretion with Isabella WILKIE -

  Andrew ORFORD married Elizabeth ADAM March 4, 1870, Edinburgh. She died September 17, 1871. There was one child to this marriage, another Andrew ORFORD, born March 29, 1871, Edinburgh

So a study of the dates should show that Andrew was a single person when he met Isabella WILKIE, my notes show that Isabella was an assistant at Andrew's shop at Kettlebridge.

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Fife / Re: MI for Kettle
« on: Friday 05 September 08 11:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

    Whilst I agree that the "MI for Kettle" thread is a bit restrictive, people like myself with a lot of ancestors in this area can find a discussion about the area quite exciting. I can understand Tom introducing new names in an effort to find associated information about the HEUGH/WILKIE line. Even though this line doesn't seem to believe in leaving a gravestone for us to read, there are associated MI's. Here's one -

Elspeth HUGHES WILKIE born Sept 27, 1873, Dams, Kettle to Isabella WILKIE, daughter of John WILKIE and Elspeth HUGHES/HEUGH.
On the birth certificate, Isabella names Andrew ORFORD as the purported father.
Now, many years ago I visited the Kettle graveyard and I'm almost certain that there was a large gravestone for the ORFORD family. Maybe NorryG will be able to quote from this, to keep the spirit of the thread alive.

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Fife / Re: MI for Kettle
« on: Tuesday 02 September 08 12:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

      I note the interest in the death places for David WILKIE's family, incidently he has a middle name of GALLOWAY and I still don't know where it originates from.

David died 1898, Little Dunkeld, Perthshire
Margaret, his wife, died 1896, Little Dunkeld, Perthshire
James b 1851, died bef. 1930, Trenton, New Jersey
Allan b 1852, died 1919, Dundee
William b 1855, died 1922, Garngadhill, Lanark
David b 1857, died 1920, Dumbarton
Robert b 1860, died 1939, Dunfermline
Jean b 1867, died 1870, Kettle

From about 1870, David is the publican at the inn at Kettlebridge, the children were being looked after, next door, by his parents-in-law, Allan and Rachel HEUGH
By the 1881 census David is a coachman

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Fife / Re: MI for Kettle
« on: Monday 01 September 08 11:43 BST (UK)  »
Hello JAP,

     These JOHNSTONS' fairly get around, because you got me curious obout the David JOHNSTON who married Marion WILKIE. So, after a quick vist to SP, here's what I found -
 
David JOHNSTON, master mason, widower of Mary (?) WILKIE, died Oct 23, 1887, aged 84. Parents David JOHNSTON, master mason (dec) and Mary BETHUNE (dec). A flying visit to the IGI indicates that they married in Aug, 1795, Kennoway. So looks like these JOHNSTONS' didn't travel far

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Fife / Re: MI for Kettle
« on: Monday 01 September 08 10:58 BST (UK)  »
Hello JAP,

     I must have thought that the WILKIE/JOHNSTONE link was important in my note taking at the time because here are some additions -

   Marion JOHNSTON ms WILKIE died 1883, at Wallace Street, Kennoway, informant David JOHNSTON, widower

  Their family -
   David b 1833, Kennoway
   Elizabeth Littlejohn b 1835, Kennoway
   Christina b 1836, Kennoway
   Rachel b 1838, Kennoway
   George b 1841, Kennoway
   James Wilkie b 1843, Kennoway
   Anne b 1845, Kennoway

   I don't know if David JOHNSTON (widower) links with the your David Johnston WILKIE at Aberdour. A check over my notes doesn't reveal a Robert WILKIE
 

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Fife / Re: MI for Kettle
« on: Monday 01 September 08 09:19 BST (UK)  »
Hello Tom,

      As I have some notes on this family I thought that I might share them with you. As the notes were done in the early days of my foray into genealogy, sources were not seen as important, so the veracity of these notes could be questionable.

      George WILKIE died May 3, 1873, widower of Christian CRIGHTON, he was aged 93. He was the farmer at Nottingham Farm, Kettle. His parents were James WILKIE, maltster and Isabella LITTLEJOHN. This is from the cert.

    My notes - George's uncle was George WILKIE b 1736 d 1768 was the captain of the ship of war "Barlow" who served during the French War under Admiral Hosburn.
    George's Father was James Marquis WILKIE b 1733, Kennoway and married Isabella LITTLEJOHN Sept 6, 1777, Kennoway.
    Marion WILKIE b 1804 married David JOHNSTON and died 1883, Kennoway
    James WILKIE b 1806 d 1842
    George WILKIE b 1808 married Margaret GUTHRIE 1840 and died 1851
    Isabel WILKIE married Alexander WALKER 1841, Kennoway
    Christina WILKIE b 1812 died 1872
    Agnes WILKIE b 1818 died March 9 1906, Kettle, single
    Eglantine Balfour WILKIE  b 1821 died May 21, 1875, Kettle, single
    End of notes.

    It was interesting to note that in nearly every death,  the burials are all in Kennoway which may indicate a large family grave at this town

   

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Fife / Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
« on: Saturday 23 August 08 07:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi Royd,

     If you are still looking for old photos of Dysart, if you go to www.fifefhs.org/publications/stenlake/stenlake.htm this is the Fife Family History Society website and Hugh Hoffman has a stock of these books. They are published by a company called Stenlake Publishing.

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Fife / Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
« on: Friday 22 August 08 23:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kirsty,

   The latest I have on this family is the death of Margaret Herd Pullar in 1943, Dundee.

   I think we have gone off topic

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Fife / Re: Does anyone know Dysart?
« on: Friday 22 August 08 22:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi Royd,

     I'm not really sure but there is a series of books showing "Old Kinghorn", "Old Dysart" etc. giving old photos of the areas. I think WH Smith sells them. I think I have some of them but as I've just moved house it will be a miracle if I ever find them again.

Hi Ostler,

    Its not very difficult, I saw you had Kinnes in your interests and you said that you lived in Markinch. Marjory Hughes was my 1st cousin, three times removed.

Hi Christine,

   I'm sure that there was only one Calman family in Dundee in the late 1700's. Most of this family are buried at the "Howff", grave 58. This is the family of John Calman born 1771, Elie, Fife. John was also my 1st cousin, but five times removed. Is this your family?

   So, if I'm related to both these people then they must also be related to each other

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