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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Walthamstow look up please
« on: Monday 16 June 08 10:11 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your time and effort in assisting me - it is greatly appreciated and I hope that I dont overdo my persistence

Alfred was born (have birth cert) 13/5/1838 looks like Hale End in the Parish of Walthamstow - father has lines - - - - and mother is Francis Western

Charles was born (have birth cert) 3/10/1851 Hale End same as Alfred and no father lister

The death of Mr. Francis Western was reported by Harriet Challis who is is granddaughter.  Francis daughter Susannah married Geroge Challis and it was registered in chapel End

in 1861 Charles was living with his mother and her husband then John Ranner - charles is listed as son in law - but this is not the case!!

Thanks again and hopefully there is a light at the end of this tunnell
tracy

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Walthamstow look up please
« on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi again

I think I might have confused things :'(

I have the family (children) of Francis Western and Elizabeth Jewell

they are
jane 20/1/1805             Grace 10/4/1808         Susannah 10/9/1809        Thomas 1/9/1811
Martha 2/5/1813            Frances 20/10/1816  Abraham 11/4/1819 and John 18/2/1821

Frances 20/10/1816 had Alfred Western 13/5/1838 and Charles 3/10/1841 neither have a father on the birth certificates

Charles married Elizabeth Glanville - one of their children Frederick Alfred 14/11/1870
Charles and Elizabeth marry Shoreditch 29/12/1867
Frederick Alfred marry Annie Hannah Elizabeth Godfrey (have no details on her)
one of their children Henry Joseph married Rosina Gertrude Wake on 14/1/1933 who are my grandparents their son Arthur Frederick is my dad

so its Francis who married Elizabeth Jewell who im trying to find the parents of or where he was actually born

its all so mind bogling and pretty hard and limited from New Zealand tracing family in England

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Walthamstow look up please
« on: Thursday 12 June 08 10:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bryant

Thanks so much for your time in looking this up for me

This is the family I am trying to trace

Francis 62 in 1841 has daughter Frances 24 living with him and her son Alfred, she goes on to have another son Charles which is where I stem from

There is no father on the birth certificates for either Alfred or Charles, but Frances goes on to marry John Ranner

I have searched every possible site I can find looking for the birth of Francis but have found nothing at all

Tracy NZ

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Essex Resources & Offers / Re: Burial Names Barnston nr Gt Dunmow 1539-96,1629-1939, 1940-1981 & 1982-1992
« on: Monday 09 June 08 09:34 BST (UK)  »
Hi, im looking for surname Western, any info would be very helpful.
many thanks

Tracy

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Walthamstow look up please
« on: Monday 09 June 08 09:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Looking for Francis Western (male) born around 1779-1780

could be spelt Weston or Westren

Thanks heaps
Tracy

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Looking for parents of Francis Western
« on: Wednesday 21 May 08 22:04 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Diblet on Wednesday 21 May 08 21:43 BST (UK)
Hi Tracy

Your message is a little bit confusing!

I presume you found Francis on the 1841 census but as that particular census doesn't give a place of birth, have you also found him on the 1851 census to know about Chapel Gate? Also, when did he die?

The more clues you give us the better chance we have of tracking the Western family down.  :)




Sorry yes birth place in 1851 census

i see that a link has been posted by a very helpfiul person - very new at this and makes life easier than repeating everything

Thanks
Tracy

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Moton End, Chapel End
« on: Wednesday 21 May 08 20:57 BST (UK)  »
1841 census

Francis      62 yrs
Elizabeth   52 yrs

Abraham 22 yrs
John  21 years
Frances 24 years
and Frances son Alfred 3 years

looks like Haggan Lane
Walthamstow

Died 11/1/1855 75 years old in Chapel End Walthamstow

Elizabeth died in 1847

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Moton End, Chapel End
« on: Wednesday 21 May 08 20:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for help so far

He married St. Leonards, Shoreditch

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Looking for parents of Francis Western
« on: Wednesday 21 May 08 20:46 BST (UK)  »
On 1841 census listed birth place is moton End, Chapel End?

from death certificate born around 1779 - 1780

Can anyone help can find nothing for him

He married Elizabeth Jewell 7/1/1805 in Shoreditch

Thanks
Tracy

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