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dont know if this is your Arther,1891 census living in crumpsall manchester age  1 with his aunt Jenny Howard who is the head age 36 ,her sister fanny age 34, walter a nephew age 3 , in the 1901 census living in Alice st  salford , manchester with aunty Sarah Jane Phillips  ,who is the head & single age 27, Walter age 13 Arther age 11 & a uncle age 60,

Hello again Eirwen , i tried looking for daniel llewellyn but no luck ,so i tried for ann davies ,again i got several marriages starting from 1850 but without more details of where marriage took place , there were to many to search through , again if you have more details just let me know , happy to help , elllen

hy i have just googled camden infirmary & i got camden listed buildinds , if it is the right one it was a workhouse 1869-1871 then extended in 1871 it is still standing now used as residential property ,it is off New End road & Heath St on the A502 , hope this is of some help, ellen

Thanks Debz,i have been very busy myself & have found out that Robina 1 was born in scotland 1939 ,her son richard b1866 also had a daughter robina b 1889 , also i have found in the 1891 robina 1 living at 45 ismay st. walton on the hill , with 2 sons Edward age 14 & john age 12,they live next door to william & mary trawler who also have a daughter named robina  so i am going to carry on to see if these people are related to robina 1 , i want to thank everone for their help with my search , you have all been so helpful , i am so grateful to you all for your kindness & time , especially you debz , still cannot find any information on my great grandad or annie , i am going to send for birth certificate for william henry who i am sure was born 1864 to robina & henry, keep your fingers crossed , ps can you tell me where i can find or buy the street maps . ellen

Thank you for your help, i really could not say, but what baffles me is ,when both their children were born they lived in liverpool & when their children married  they lived in liverpool