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The Common Room / Re: Carved stone
« on: Wednesday 21 August 13 21:56 BST (UK)  »
At the risk of being wildly off-based, I'm going to guess these are devanagari letters, so some kind of Sanskrit or Hindi term perhaps? In the photograph, the letters are oriented "upside down." Any Hindi-speakers in the village who might help you out? As you say, it is a lovely object indeed.

Regina

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Cavan / Re: where is this place in Cavan?
« on: Tuesday 18 June 13 18:10 BST (UK)  »
Rebecca, here's hoping you have a wonderful and fruitful time tracing your Conatys in Kilnaleck. On our own recent "roots-hunting" trip in May, we stayed at the Glan B & B in Mullaghoran, which is about 11 km or 6 miles from Kilnaleck. We can sincerely recommend it. You'll find the Cavan countryside beautiful, and the hospitality genuine. Good luck!

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Cavan / Re: McGiveny - Co. Cavan
« on: Thursday 13 June 13 16:42 BST (UK)  »
Greetings from the U.S. I'm sure folks in Cavan will be able to help in more detail, but a couple of basics: Crosserlough is a Parish, and Drummlonan is a Townland within the Parish of Crosserlough. If you look at the Griffiths Valuation of the 1840s, there are 48 McGivneys listed: 28 live in Crosserlough, 10 live in the Parish of Denn (which borders Crosserlough), and 4 live in the Parish of Lavey (which borders Denn). So the McGivneys stuck together, and that should give you hope in tracing your Mary Ann.
The U.S. angle to all this is that a McGivney was one of the most significant figures in the nineteenth century American Catholic Church: Fr. Michael McGivney founded the Knights of Columbus, and the cause for his canonization was opened a few years ago in Rome. (For what it's worth, he seems genuinely to have been a holy man.) His father Patrick McGivney (b. 1825) emigrated from Cavan in 1849, and lived in Waterbury, Connecticut where he married Mary Lynch (likewise from Cavan). They had 12 children, seven of whom survived to adulthood. The first official biography of Fr. McGivney was published in 2006 ("Parish Priest: Father Michael McGivney and American Catholicism"), and steers clear of naming the Cavan parishes his parents came from. So I do not know if there is lingering uncertainty there. Fr. McGivney's youngest brother, John, became a priest himself, and ended up as the Parish priest to my family, baptizing my father and uncles.
So we have reason to be grateful to the McGivney clan! Again, best of luck with your Mary Ann.

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Kerry / Re: Ardfert Townland -- Lisadigue?
« on: Friday 15 March 13 12:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much, everyone! The Ardfert diaspora is in your debt!

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Kerry / Ardfert Townland -- Lisadigue?
« on: Friday 15 March 13 12:24 GMT (UK)  »
I have an 1862 baptismal record (for Edmund Dooling) from the Parish of Ardfert listing "Lisadigue" as the Townland. But that does not correspond to any of the Ardfert townlands in the Griffiths Valuation -- Liscahane and Listrim, yes, but no "Lisadigue".
Any thoughts or illuminations? Thanks!

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Cavan / Re: Thomas Plunkett-From Caven but where?
« on: Wednesday 26 November 08 15:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hello CMCC,
(Sorry for the delay.)
It is exciting to hear your family has been researching the Plunketts of Kilbride, and I hope this information is not too repetitive.
I think that your Thomas Plunkett (b. 1813) might be a cousin to my gggf George (b.1805). The 1821 census finds a seven-year-old boy who looks like your Thomas living in Tonagh (house #29) with his father Pat, his mother Mary, and younger siblings Luke (5) and Mary (2). At the same time, my gggf George is living across the way in Crossrah (house #18) -- if you look at the townslands map, Tonagh and Crossrah are quite close-by -- George is 16, living with his father Michael, mother Anne, brothers Matthew, James, John, and Michael, and sisters Mary and Catherine. So it is possible that Thomas's father Pat and George's father Michael were brothers.
You noted that Thomas was evicted in 1860. The property tax rolls (sorry -- I can't think of the proper Irish name -- these are the ledgers that record what happens to the various parcels after Griffiths valuations) -- these show a Thomas Plunkett moving into Crossrah in 1866, taking over plot #5 from Bartholomew Cooke, and making him virtually a next-door neighbor of my gggf George who was on plots #7 & 10. This Thomas remains in Crossrah (or at least the land remains in his name) until 1906. Although it seems you have firm evidence the family moved to Westmeath, I thought you'd like to know about another Kilbride Thomas Plunkett.
As for naming-evidence, my gggf George did not name any of his sons Thomas (they were Michael, Patrick, Matthew, and Hugh -- my ggf).
I hope this helps in your search.
charismayo

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Ireland Resources / Re: IFHF Online Genealogy Database
« on: Monday 12 May 08 16:11 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Christopher, for the enlightening information on the transcribers. I plan on being grateful when a solid lead materializes online, and undaunted when nothing turns up.

charismayo

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Ireland Resources / Re: IFHF Online Genealogy Database
« on: Monday 12 May 08 07:12 BST (UK)  »
A (hopeful) word about getting negative results back from the IFHF Online:

When Cavan finally came online and I searched for my great-grandfather's baptismal record (a firm date, just lacked the parish), my result was "0" -- no one of that name baptized in Cavan within 7 years of the correct date. I persevered, went to the National Library, and found him almost immediately, baptized the precise month & year I had expected.
What went wrong? I still don't know. But the reigning philosophy of these boards -- to keep trying, keep hoping -- still holds true even with easy access to online records.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: PLUNKETT
« on: Saturday 10 May 08 16:12 BST (UK)  »
Dear RevMother,

Greetings from an American Plunkett. When I started this research, of course I hoped I would learn that we were related to St. Oliver (and the Vatican had mislaid our invitation to his canonization), or to the Dunsanys (who had mislaid our invitation to tea), but now I am very happy just to know where we came from: Kilbride Parish, County Cavan. My great-great-grandparents, George Plunkett and Catherine Cooke Plunkett somehow managed to keep the family going through the Famine. My great-grandfather, Hugh, was born in 1852; a younger son, he was sent to America while still a teenager, to New Haven, Connecticut, to live with relatives of his mother. The Plunkett men in my family are marked by intelligence, courage, and a spirit of gentleness.

In my research so far, I have not come across an "Edward," but the geographical wellspring is indeed the area where Cavan, Meath, and Westmeath come together. (I would take a look at the 1796 Flax-growers Lists, and even the 1821 census, which survives for some townships in that area, to see if you can find some Edwards.)

If you haven't read it, "In the Blood" by Geraldine Plunkett Dillon is, well, hard to describe. She was the sister of Joseph Mary Plunkett, and this is a family memoir. The problem is that her mother (not a Plunkett!) was a seriously malicious person, and although Geraldine has a terrific, vivid style, it makes for troubling reading. The best chapter, and well worth the slog through all the Edwardian-era dysfunction, is her account of life in Galway in the years immediately after the 1916 Rising -- the clandestine organizing, the arrival of the Black and Tans -- all first-hand accounts. Riveting.

Best wishes,
charismayo

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