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Scotland / Re: Port Allen
« on: Tuesday 11 February 14 00:52 GMT (UK)  »
The very interesting local history book I referred to previously says that the name of the harbour in old records appears as "Miln of Errol", "Port of Errol", "Pow and Harbour of Errol". The author states that only in recent times (the book was published in 1935) has it been known as "Port Allen".  "According to some of the present inhabitants of the village", says the author,  "this name was bestowed upon it by one of the Allens of Errol Park."
The Allens purchased property in the area in the mid 18th century.

Thanks for everyone's help.
Jonathan

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Scotland / Re: Port Allen
« on: Sunday 12 January 14 04:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks everyone.

I have located a book which might provide the answer: Melville, Lawrence: Errol, Its Legends, Lands and People, 1935. Amazon have it listed on CD, so I have ordered one. Fingers crossed!

Jonathan

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Scotland / Re: Port Allen
« on: Saturday 11 January 14 20:22 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the lead, Bill. The website looks very interesting.

Jonathan

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Scotland / Re: Port Allen
« on: Friday 10 January 14 23:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, Bruce.
I think I can safely assume that "Port Allen" dates from the time that John Allen and his two sons were at Errol and Inchmartine.
Jonathan

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Scotland / Re: Port Allen
« on: Thursday 09 January 14 23:06 GMT (UK)  »
Further information on the Allens in the area:  John Allen also acquired property at Errol at some later date, which appears to be even closer to Port Allen. Captain Allen, R.N. apparently lived at Errol.

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Scotland / Re: Port Allen
« on: Thursday 09 January 14 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, KGarrard.

I am assuming that there is a connection to the Allen family. John Allen purchased property at Inchmartine in 1783, so there was quite a period when Allens were present in the area. It would be nice to know whether there was a "Port Allen" prior to 1783.  If there was, then maybe this a reason for John Allen to have bought in the area, although the family seem to have come from Glasgow.

Jonathan

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Scotland / Port Allen
« on: Thursday 09 January 14 00:56 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know the origin of the name Port Allen on the River Tay?

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Midlothian / Re: Robert Allan Shoe Shop Edinburgh
« on: Saturday 14 December 13 21:48 GMT (UK)  »
So very nice to hear from the occupants of my great uncle's old house!
Your are correct - Bellville Lodge is at 5 Blackett Avenue and according to the internet is now a nursing home.  I assume that Robert Allan moved here from 10 Minto Street - I believe he was at Bellville Lodge in 1908.  If you have dates from the census showing when Robert lived at 10 Minto I would appreciate having them.

I have sent you a personal message also (I think!)

Many thanks for your response,
Jonathan

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Scotland / Re: ALLEN, John - family crest: "Fortiter"
« on: Tuesday 29 October 13 01:02 GMT (UK)  »
Grateful thanks, Martin.
I wasn't aware of the biography - it looks like a great resource.
Interestingly my information shows John James Allen with only one son, so I will have to follow that up.
Jonathan

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