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The Common Room / Re: HELP needed with Merchant Seamen records 1800's
« on: Thursday 12 February 09 21:03 GMT (UK)  »
An index to entries in the Lloyds Captains Register 1869-1911. Series MS 18567 appears at the Guildhall Library website.

http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/capintro.htm

However it seems that an index for Captains whose names begin with "F" has not been done yet.
There is some useful information if you follow the link to the The Guildhall Library information leaflet "Lloyd’s "Captains Registers" at Guildhall Library and related sources elsewhere".

There is alot of information here:
 
http://www.anmm.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=89&c=166

if your ancestor sailed overseas.

regards
graham



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England / Re: Desperately seeking Sarah
« on: Sunday 27 July 08 16:32 BST (UK)  »
Hi Heywood

I apologise for the duplication of subjects, the other thread is my daughters. I had not realised she had posted about this.

I have also searched the Aberfeldy option and, I think, every other scottish place on the Scottishpeople website (a bit expensive I must say) although I did learn that my Grandfather Walter Mawbey died in scotland.

But this doesn't help the task at hand.

I have tried to do lateral searches on Bridgwater name variations but without any success I also searched marriages for James Smith and meticulously sifted through each one but again without success.

The only reason I posted on here was in the hope that someone with more experience may have a more lateral mind than me and be able to ferret out a misspelling or other mistake in the indexes or transcriptions

I have rechecked the 1858 FreeBMD marrige for Sarah with the missing Groom but sadly after looking at the image have determined that this Sarah Bridgwater and John Lambert are legitimate entries and the third entry is the error (error in page number transcription, which I have reported to FreeBMD)

I am now compiling a list of all Bridgwater marriages for the time period 1845 ish to 1861 with a view to find if sarah was previously married.

Not a task I envy

I know that there are only a few Sarah Bridgwaters turning up in the census returns but its hard confirming which one is the right one without the benefit of the marrige.

cheers
Graham
 

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England / Re: Desperately seeking Sarah
« on: Sunday 27 July 08 10:47 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: heywood on Sunday 27 July 08 10:26 BST (UK)
I thought I had something re marriage but not sure:

Free BMD has 1858 marriage for a Sarah Bridgewater - Cleobury Mortimer district which is the right one for 1841 census- there is a groom missing but I have called myelf to check full index to match a James Smith to no avail!


added;
this is possibly Sarah in 1851 - as Bridgewaters. The age is different to the 1841, 1861,1871 so again you probably have this too.

HO107; Piece: 1985; Folio: 34; Page: 28

Thanks Heywood,

I have already seen all of these.  ;D

The name Bridgwater is variable it can have an 'e' in the middle or could be or have an 's' on the end or both!
The name on my Grandmothers and her sisters birth certificate is definately BRIDGWATER without either e or s.

I also checked that marriage on FreeBMD and like you checked the relevant Quarter's Smith's.

There is a John Lambert with a wife Sarah on the 1861 census RG9; Piece: 1846; Folio: 88; Page: 14 living in the Cleobury Mortimer Reg Dist with 3 children, the oldest child being Mary, birth reg Mar Qtr 1859, so I would say that this accounts for that Sarah.

Cheers
Graham

What is also puzzling me is the fact that James smith was supposedly born in Rochdale Lancashire - Sarah in Shropshire  and in 1861 they are living in Clerkenwell Middlesex with a child born in Scotland ???

I know that this branch of my ancestors were all Navvies and assume the change of places are due to railway construction.

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England / Desperately seeking Sarah
« on: Sunday 27 July 08 08:32 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I am having great difficulty in tracing a marriage between my paternal GGrandparents James Smith (b c1835 Rochdale) and Sarah Bridgwater (b c1830 Shropshire). The birth dates are unreliable as they fluctuate from census to census.

I do realise that they may not have legally married, but I hope they did.

My paternal grandmother was Elizabeth Mawbey nee Smith (b Feb 1868 Alfreton) a daughter of James and Sarah, her birth certificate confirms both parents names (as does her elder sister's Charlotte also born in Derbyshire)

The first reference I have where James and Sarah are together is the 1861 census for Clerkenwell - James Smith, Sarah (wife) and a 2yr old son born in Scotland.

Class: RG9; Piece: 196; Folio: 125; Page: 28;

I also have Sarah's death certificate Sarah Smith aged 41 died Sept 1871 Ingleton Fells Settle. They were a Navvy family - James Smith was a railway tunnel miner at this time on the Settle to Carlisle railway construction (1871 census, Jordan Camp, Class: RG10; Piece: 4252; Folio: 34; Page: 18;)

I have spent many hours sifting through the indexes available but cannot find a marriage index. I have also searched the Scottish records for a marriage and a birth record for the son , but to no avail.

I may be flogging a dead horse here but without a marriage I will be unable to obtain James' and Sarahs' Fathers' names to identify the correct Smith and Bridgwater families

I do hope that some one here can help or suggest any way of confirming a marriage
Many thanks in advance for anyone who can help
Cheers
Graham

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Europe / Re: Italian north shields 19th century
« on: Sunday 27 April 08 10:50 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Harlem on Sunday 27 April 08 10:34 BST (UK)
Hi Graham
I don't Know when immigrants would become entitled to vote but the main Library at North Shields holds old voters registers. If you have your Grandfathers address from his marriage cert.you might be able to find the names of those entitled to vote living at that address before his marriage.
I don't know if this would help any but it may give an idea of how long he had been in the country.


Thanks, that's an interesting idea.

I will have to arrange a trip to North Shields and have a look.

Graham

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Europe / Re: Italian north shields 19th century
« on: Sunday 27 April 08 10:05 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Manchester Rambler on Sunday 27 April 08 09:22 BST (UK)
Someone else is looking for this guy!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=297316.msg1798074;topicseen

There is a TEDESCO family living in Darlington on the 1901 census, with a father and son both called Antonio - unfortunately the ages don't match your ancestor, but they may be related?

Rambler

Thanks Rambler,

The other person looking is my daughter  ;D she hadn't told me of her post on here.

We had already found the Darlington Tedesco's and I have a list of others and name variants from the census records at Ancestry.com but can find no definate connections.

It is my understanding that the name was not changed until after the birth of my mother in 1916 as her and her older sister (born 1913) are registered with the Tetesegge (Tetesagge) name - later children were registered Tedesco and my mothers maiden name on her marriage certificate is Tedesco.

My mother used to tell stories of internment and how (I think) her father spent time in a Seminary in order to avoid it, but I was young and can barely remember the stories.

Many thanks for your help.

Graham

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Europe / Italian north shields 19th century
« on: Saturday 26 April 08 10:27 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I am trying to trace information regarding my grandfather Antonio Tetesegge (Tetesagge later Tedesco) who I believe to have been an Italian Immigrant.

Unfortunately the only reference I have is his marriage certificate to my grandmother dated 1911.

His name was Antonio Tetesegge and on 24th October 1911 aged 29 he married Mary E. Chambers at St. Cuthberts RC Church Bedford Street North Shields, Tynemouth.

Both he and his spouse were resident in North Shields at the time of the marriage.

Antonio's occupation is listed as an Ice Cream Vendor on the marriage certificate, his Father is listed as Peter Tetesegge (deceased) also an Ice Cream Vendor.

During WW1 the name seems to have been anglisized to Tedesco.

I have searched the available census records but can find no entries for the Tetesagge name, this makes me believe that either they chose not to record there presence or they arrived in the country after the 1901 census was taken.

I would be very grateful if anyone could advise where to look for possible information.

Many Thanks in Advance
Graham

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