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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Wednesday 10 March 10 19:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jeannie and Ian

the only other marriage record I can find for an Albert E Lapping is in Dover in Kent in Jan -Feb-March1920, which is about the right time. His spouses name was Rose Phillips. Not sure how to check if it is the same Albert but I will keep looking

Cheers

Aly

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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Thursday 04 March 10 23:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ian & Jeannie

Albert was my Grandad Williams'  older brother. He was born to Elizabeth Lapping Nee Heard and John Joseph Lapping in the Orford Barracks at Warrington. Elizabeths mother was present at the birth.

He appears on the 1901 census with his mother and three brothers living in Portsmouth. By this time his father was dead from disease in Pietermaritzberg. (He was buried there).

After Elizabeth married Joseph Atkinson the family moved to Hull except John who settled and married in Portsmouth.  I have been unable to find very much information on the Lapping family as they were not close and little in the way of documentation has survived.

Are you related to Albert?

Best wishes

Aly

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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Sunday 30 November 08 20:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ken

thanks for your persistance, I just wonder if he actually got as high as Colour Sergeant or whether that was a flight of fancy too, and if he did gain the higher rank what he did to be demoted. It would be great if we could have a time machine.

Thanks for your help

Aly

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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Sunday 30 November 08 19:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jeannie

Thanks for the information, after your help last time I did find this census record and through a different website managed to get in touch with Ann(ie)'s grandaughter who still lives in the Merseyside area. It is the same family and that is the John lappin who married Mary Judge, The lady was able to provide certificates for their marriage. according to the certificate John was a "Mariner" and it was assumed by their family that when the lads (John and Patrick ) got old enough, they went to sea with him. What "old enough" was in those days I am not sure. I have also found a death record for 1866 for a John Lapping, born Liverpool 1859, So I need look in the Parish records to see if it is the John, son of Mary and John. If so I have to start all over again.

I do know from that family that the three children were all born in Liverpool as was John Snr, but his father was Owen Lapping who came from Ireland.

Ah well,

Thanks for everything

Aly

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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Friday 28 November 08 22:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ken

thank you for putting in all this time for me it is much appreciated.

His marriage certificate (1890) indicates that he was born in 1865, but if Jeannie R is right (thanks for your help too Jeannie) and he is the son of Mary Judge and John Lapping, he would have been born in Liverpool in1859. I have been in touch with another branch of this family and they also had two birth dates for John, the same as mine, but he disappears from the census records after 1861. The lady told me that John Lappin (father) was a Mariner from Ireland and may have ben in the habit of taking his young sons to sea with him.

He may also have gone back to family in Ireland where his mother and grandfather Owen Lapping came from. That could explain it if he started out in the Royal Irish Fusiliers. I know that he was also in the 1st South Lancs when he died.

It also states on his marriage certificate and his son Alberts birth certificate (1895) that he was a Colour Sergeant.

Cheers

Aly


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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Thursday 27 November 08 14:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Ken

That would appear to solve identification of my mystery soldier. The photograph is almost certainly then my great great grandad William Heard. That would mean the photograph was probably taken around 1875-6 and is him with the young Elizabeth, John Josephs future wife.

If he was in the Royal Artillary and 16 years later, when Elizabeth married, had transferred to OSD that would fit very well.

Unfortunately all I know of him is that he was stationed at some point in the Isle of White, where he met his wife and at some point served in India.

I feel more research coming on,

Thanks for all the help

Aly

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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Thursday 27 November 08 08:40 GMT (UK)  »
Just a thought. John's wife Elizabeths father was a Warrant Officer in "2 OSD". She was born 1875 so the period would be right if it was him in the photo holding her

He is William Heard born 1851, Bristol

Not sure what OSD stands for so although I know he was military I did not know what regiment.

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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Wednesday 26 November 08 09:30 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks all of ,

i now have the onerous task of informing my 90 odd year old step aunt that she has the wrong man!

Onwards to my new quest

I love this site!

Aly


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Armed Forces / Re: South Lancashire Regiment soldier
« on: Tuesday 25 November 08 22:58 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: km1971 on Monday 24 November 08 22:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Aly

I am confused why the child (William) was born in Preston. The Depot of the South Lancs was in Warrington (sharing with the Liverpools). The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment had it's Depot in Preston.

The number 1026 would have been issued in the early 1880s. Can you say on which occasions the number was quoted - marriage, 1895 birth, 1900 birth, Boer War casualty roll?

Ken

Not sure why his wife was in Preston, but Albert was definitly born in Warrington,


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