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Lancashire / Re: Place of Birth - Varies
« on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:54 BST (UK) »
I agree with Anna about the information contained in any Census - it is simply what was given to the enumerator by the family concerned, so must be taken as that. There is absolutely no doubt that this is the same family, although taking the ages of the family members shows some discrepancies. This is not uncommon - the present-day idea that everyone knows their birthday wasn't so over 100 years ago (the birthday card industry and social security has changed all that!). Incidentally Elizabeth died shortly after the 1891 census, in the Sep quarter of 1893. Was she perhaps already ill when the 1891 census was taken, and John simply gave what info he thought was correct? That might explain the Hale reference. He himsef was recorded as being born in two places in Liverpool: Gateacre (1881) and Woolton (1891/1901), although both are admittedly adjacent to one another.
Certainly the 1881 says quite clearly that she was born in the Isle of Man. Liverpool was and still is the port for the ferries to there - and John was a docker so he may have met her at the docks. Why he should have recorded Hale is anyone's guess. He was simply a docker. probably illiterate and didn't understand the reason for the census anyway!!!
There is a marriage recorded for a John Greenough in the GRO records - 1879 I think. That would give her surname; and the Isle of Man records are separate from those of England.
Finally you mention the proximity of the two addresses. The days of owner-occupied property were a long way off, and most people rented their homes. In ten years (1881-1891) they may even have moved several times. The polling lists would show that.
Hope this helps
Peter
Certainly the 1881 says quite clearly that she was born in the Isle of Man. Liverpool was and still is the port for the ferries to there - and John was a docker so he may have met her at the docks. Why he should have recorded Hale is anyone's guess. He was simply a docker. probably illiterate and didn't understand the reason for the census anyway!!!
There is a marriage recorded for a John Greenough in the GRO records - 1879 I think. That would give her surname; and the Isle of Man records are separate from those of England.
Finally you mention the proximity of the two addresses. The days of owner-occupied property were a long way off, and most people rented their homes. In ten years (1881-1891) they may even have moved several times. The polling lists would show that.
Hope this helps
Peter