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Occupation Interests / Re: Art Dealer in 18th Century London
« on: Friday 01 January 10 16:34 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: avm228 on Friday 01 January 10 16:18 GMT (UK)
The Samuel WOODBURN who married Hannah SAMUEL and had all those children seems to have been a watchmaker born in Liverpool abt 1812-13.

They were in Liverpool in 1851: HO107/2196/393/32 (Hannah's father Moses SAMUEL with them)

Samuel, Hannah and family were still in Liverpool in 1861: RG9/2684/88/1.

Hannah (by now a widow) was still in Liverpool in 1871 with children: RG10/3784/74/22.

 

Yes Hannah's father was Moses Samuel and her mother was Harriet nee Israel.

That makes sense about Liverpool because Moses and his mother went there after their father died.

The Samuel Woodburn I've come across seems to have been a well-known Art Dealer & collector although a journeyman engraver is interesting.

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Occupation Interests / Re: Art Dealer in 18th Century London
« on: Friday 01 January 10 16:00 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: avm228 on Friday 01 January 10 15:53 GMT (UK)
Quote from: stanmapstone on Friday 01 January 10 15:44 GMT (UK)
From The Times 25th April 1853.
On the 20th. inst., at his residence, 134 Piccadilly, after a short illness, Samuel Woodburn of St. Martin's-lane, and Coedgwgan-hall, Radnorshire, Esq., deeply regretted by his family and numerous friends.

Stan


This is interesting.  The 1851 census shows a Samuel WOODBURN, 64, Unmarried, picture merchant born London, at Coedgwgan Hall, Radnorshire.  With him is a William WOODBURN, 73, brother, unmarried, proprietor of houses born London (plus 3 servants and a lodger).
HO107/2494/241/17.

On the face of it, this is not consistent with Samuel the art dealer being the same chap who had a large family with Hannah nee SAMUEL.

Anna yes  it is interesting but the Samuel Family of Liverpool & London book has these family details it's published in 1958.
Details are very vague though.
I saw that he was born in Ceredigion, Wales but thought that Samuel Woodburn was a Londoner.
It's the fact that he was a successful art dealer and collector of his era having taken up the business after his father, John with
his 2 brothers

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Occupation Interests / Re: Art Dealer in 18th Century London
« on: Friday 01 January 10 15:43 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: avm228 on Friday 01 January 10 15:27 GMT (UK)
NB the marriage to Hannah SAMUEL seems to have been late in Samuel WOODBURN's life (Dec qtr 1847 Liverpool 20 383).  Was this his first marriage, in his 60s?  Have you traced Samuel & Hannah in the 1851 census, and did the marriage produce children?

Anna yes I know about Hannah SAMUEL's parentage already
yes the marriage did produce children.
Alfred Henry, Harriet, Hinda, Elizabeth, Annie, Ada, Thomas, Emily, Reginald and Amy Woodburn.



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Occupation Interests / Re: Art Dealer in 18th Century London
« on: Friday 01 January 10 15:36 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: stanmapstone on Friday 01 January 10 15:28 GMT (UK)
Have you seen the entry for him at http://www.npg.org.uk/research/conservation/directory-of-british-framemakers/w.php


Stan

Stan yes I had seen the website you have found because the NPG
was the first gallery I'd thought of.

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Occupation Interests / Re: Art Dealer in 18th Century London
« on: Friday 01 January 10 15:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi avm228

I am looking more into his professional life but I've not found out
yet who his parents were.

I have used the national archives site, googled and Oxford DNB
as well as ancestry.co.uk

Thanks

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Occupation Interests / Art Dealer in 18th Century London
« on: Friday 01 January 10 15:00 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking into my distant late relative Samuel Woodburn, who was
a successful Art Dealer with galleries like the National Portrait Gallery
(NPG), Royal Academy of Arts, FitzWilliam Museum.

But I'm not sure where to properly look because I don't have any
written info about him.

I do know that he married Hannah nee Samuel.
His DoB 7 March 1783 DoD 1853

Thanks 8)

Rosalind

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The Lighter Side / Re: How did you find Rootschat?
« on: Monday 08 June 09 17:36 BST (UK)  »
Several people mentioned Rootschat to me firstly from the BBC's Family tree board but others as well.

Also I've mentioned Rootschat to some friends who are doing their own Family Tree researches.

Does this messageboard have anything to with subjects like the
"SoE" Special Operations Executive as I have heard of it and have just come across a distant late relative who was in the SoE a spy wow

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The Common Room / Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« on: Tuesday 07 October 08 11:04 BST (UK)  »
silvery
Yes they do seem to have strange names with the exceptions of the 2 brothers of Siegfried Sassoon, who were Michael Sasson,
he was the eldest, Siegfried was the middle son and their brother:
Their parents were Alfred Ezra Sassoon and Georgina Thornycroft.

Hamo Watts Sassoon, who died on 1st November 1915, from wounds received in action on board the hospital ship S.S. Kilonan Castle.

2nd Lt. Hamo Watts Sassoon gained the rank of 2nd Lieutenant in the service of the Royal Engineers.1 He fought in the Gallipoli Campaign, and was wounded at Suvla Bay, losing his leg.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=5221403

http://www.1914-18.co.uk/brooke/summary%20of%20casulaties%20frame.htm



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The Common Room / Re: Where do I look for information on the relatives of Siegfried Sassoon?
« on: Monday 06 October 08 23:58 BST (UK)  »
Thanks surreyman
yes this information is very interesting and I am not sure if this is
the right idea about why Sassoon Joseph Sassoon has this strange name but it might have been like some people are called:

Son of Joseph Sassoon = Sassoon Joseph Sassoon
although I am only guessing here.

Also the tailors is still in business I've checked on Google.

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