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Hi Diddymiller
My apologies

I have got myself confused now

Senior moments seem to happen more often now 
I am sure it goes like this

Brown SideThomas Brown married 1745? to Margaret Lyel
son:-

James Brown married 1791 ?  Madalaine Clark
son:-

John Brown [Carrier] married Elizabeth Brown around 1791
they had a daughter Euphemia who married Alexander McDonald

On the 1841 census.Parish number 417
Alex McDonald 40 .Shoregate.Crail Fisherman
Betsie McDonald 13
Euphemia 35
Euphemia 5
Magdalane 2

They had a daughter Madalaine Clark McDonald b1839 , who married David Edmond

They had a daughter Euphemia McDonald Edmond who married my Grandfather Alexander Swan Beaty, it was his second wife, his 1st marraige was to a Mary Jefferson who died in Crail not long after having a son Joseph, they were returned to be buried in Cumberland

The Edmond side
my 4th grand father David a joiner, married to a Isabel Hayne or Hain in , i think Damhead?,Cupar
my  3rd Gt Grandfather David Edmond , Hotel Keeper  married a Janet Pryde
my 2nd Gt Grandfather another David Edmond
who married Magdaline Clark Mcdonald in 1866 in Crail
but there could be a Kennoway area connection i have not investigated as yet

There Daughter Euphemia married Alexander Swan Beaty my Grand father

I spent a day at the Museum & found them very helpfull, but they have little in the way of records it seems


I did find a grave in the Church yard for David Edmond & Madalaine Clark McDonald  , no grave for Alexander McDonald however although it states in the Sexton Records he is  buried in Crail

In the new cemetary the headstone of my Grandfather has actually gone missing for some reason as well, so i wll need to contact Fife Council to see why

Thank you for your help & for pointing out my mistake
Kind Regards
ron81

Hi JAP..

Thank you for placing this again to the top of the board, that was a very kind gesture & much appreciated

Yes i know it is unusual not to get replies, as i have had some wonderful help in other areas from the board. I thank them for that
I saw many also read the thread, i hope they found it of interest, as i find other treads are

I was rather hoping to find any relations in the Fife area, especially Dunfermline & Crail area?
I am pretty sure there must be relations in the Dunfermline area somewhere, they obviously dont read the Chat boards   

My father Walter Beaty fell out it appears with most, if not all of his family,believe it or not , over his fathers will!!!

When his sister Magdalaine & her husband Robert Steel , ex bank manager Crail,was left most of the estate, yes sad i know.

 I am unsure if my Father , Walter Beaty, ever knew about relations that moved from Cumbria to Fife

Also David  Edmond, my Great Grandfather, who was the mail contractor & ran daily , i believe from Crail to St Andrews, he originally came from Cupar where his Father had a Hotel & also ran the mail contract

Also interested in any Browns of Crail,, My Crail connection goes back to Thomas Brown,, married to Margaret Lyel   my 5th Gt Grandfather ,born 1745

Again if anyone has any information about Alexander McDonald of Crail,  my Gt Gt  Grandfather , who was born in Opinan, Gairloch, lost at sea in 1845,
His body was , we were told, was brougth back to Crail , with another 4 bodies, unsure if the rest were from Crail  area however
Sounds like part of a fishing crew, as he was sometime a fisherman & sometime Sailor

Alexanders  parents were Donald McDonald & Elizabeth Brown,Alexander  married my Gt Gt Grand mother Madalaine Clark McDonald in 1827

If anyone has any information of Donald McDonald  & Elizabeth Brown of Opinan, Gairloch, in the Highlands,who were Alexanders parents, although not married  . I would be very grateful

I have tried every way i can to find any information on Alexander McDonald, although buried in Crail,according to the Sexton books of Death.

I can find no headstone..I have been through the bowels of the Uni at St Andrews, the staff i found so very helpful in every way

But after searching newspapers of the time, Council Records Fishing Museum etc etc, i have hit a wall..I find it hard to believe that no further record of Alexander exists, it is so frustrating,

I expect many on here will of been in the same position, thanks again for allowing me to highlight this
Kind Regards
Ron81

Hi
I wonder if anyone can help me, with a real puzzler for me
re the Low family Monifieth & area

I have traced back our family tree from 2006 to 1613

I have from Thomas Low= Gillies Kay[ Kaye] 1639

Their son Walter Low = Mrs Low [ name unknown] 1642
His family of Elspet-Walter- Agnes – Thomas – John Alexander

With most of the certificates from Scottish People site, ie birth marriage death

Now with one big problem

I have a gap , I cannot find the Father of John Low B 1698 = to Margaret Reid in 1721

His father is obviously part of Walter & Mrs Low family

However none of the above are old enough to of had a son John, except unless one was married at 14 , which I doubt, it seems I am missing members of Walters family somewhere

Those were the only names I could find connected to Walters family, can anyone help at all

Its driving me daft!!!! 


The tree all works out alright from there on to 2006 dates are fine, everything else links up

I might add that tree follows on to a John Crombie Lowe, note the added "E"
who was my  Grt Grandfather, his son John Lowe [My Grandfather] married a Jemima  Allan in Dunfermline  in 1907

Apart from that most of the early ones stayed in the Monifieth area, some went to Ladybank Fife

Regards
Ron81

Researching Allan [ Dunfermline],
Beaty [ Dunfermline]
Brown & Mc Donald [ Crail ]
Edmond Crail ,Cupar,Fife area.
Baty [Artheret, Longtown & Bewcastle Cumbria

Hi Chiad Fhear
Thanks for that, as i said some of the family had asked, but how deeply gone into i dont know

I intend to visit very soon, so will check it out, thanks agin for your help & reply
Kind Regards 
Ron

Hi Thrall

Many thanks for your help, it was just a thought , it might be Crail

Possibly happened elsewhere?

My reasoning was bodies decomposing before they got them home
I will certainly give your suggestion a trial ,thank you for taking the time, its much appreciated 


It really seems to stump folk, 
I see by the crest & your name you obviously have close connections to Crail

"weel jist ca canny & ferret awa"
Regards
Ron