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The Common Room / Re: Moving about England in 1810 ish
« on: Sunday 29 July 18 05:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Appologies for only just seeing this message as per my PM.

If you are still interested in helping me my answer is no, I don't have a marriage for  Mary Ann Hodgson 's parents as yet, so don't know her mum's maiden name.

The birth in Covent Garden is just a ? for me as yes there is inconsistency between the names John and Jonathan.  Also the names are quite common so it is more than likley another couple.

I'm quite stumped with the change in birth location she has declared on the census.

Also the transcriotion of Cove on one of the returns is questionable so the only real thing for me to go on is London.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Best Wishes
Vonni

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Place of birth from census
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 15:28 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I agree they started to write Yorkshire and changed it to Middlesex and then Startedvwritinf Caldwell and changed it to London.

Thank you all for your help.  ;D

BW

Vonni

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Place of birth from census
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 13:01 BST (UK)  »
Yes, thank you both... I can see what you mean now... almost changed yorkshire into Middlesex...

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Place of birth from census
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 12:59 BST (UK)  »
It is 1861 -RG9  ;)

The first letter is C like the C in Caldwell below

There has been an attempt to cross it out.  ;D

I have no idea so just sent the whole reference just in case  ;D

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Place of birth from census
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 12:25 BST (UK)  »
Thank you

RG 9/3678/31 page: 14


BW

Vonni

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The Common Room / Re: Moving about England in 1810 ish
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 07:40 BST (UK)  »
Oh yes sorry, she was living in Ovington in 1841... that might be why you couldn’t find her.
I have a tendency to think of the villages, esp. Eppleby and Caldwell and Forcett as more or less the same place as my family were from there and they are spoken about as if they are the same.

Full reference below:

Ovington Yorkshire HO107/1245/Book: 16/Folio: 4/p 4

The first reference to her being born in London is in 1861
They were actually living in Eppleby

James Graham Head
Mary A Graham. Wife
Jonathan Robinson son in law
Thomas Graham son
George Graham son


BW
Vonni

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The Common Room / Re: Moving about England in 1810 ish
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 06:47 BST (UK)  »
I have posted an image of the birth location for Mary Ann Hodgson  from the 1851 census return on the decyphering board. Link below.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=795152.0

BW

Vonni

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Place of birth from census
« on: Thursday 14 June 18 06:39 BST (UK)  »
Morning,

I have an open thread in the common room about an ancestor that may have travelled from Yorkshire to London and back in the early 1800’s.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=794980.0

This is the birth location for a Mary Ann Graham (born Hodgson) from the 1951 census in Caldwell, Yorkshire.

Can anyone make out what the word is between Middlesex and London?

Thank you for any help.

BW

Vonni

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The Common Room / Re: Moving about England in 1810 ish
« on: Wednesday 13 June 18 21:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

Thank you for your all your comments, Interesting thoughts. Sorry for the delayed reply I have been a tad busy at work.

Her name was Mary Ann Hodgson B abt 1811-13 either in Caldwell or London according to the census returns. Her Father was John Hodgson and mother Elizabeth b Caldwell 1789 ish although I have not located a suitable baptism for her in Caldwell as yet despite them being available online for this area.

She appears on the census as Mary Robinson in 1841 living with her husband and two children in Caldwell.
Then in 1851 living in Caldwell as a widow with her mother and three children in 1851. (The third child Jonathan was born well after her 1st husband died)
She then rocks up in Caldwell in 1861 living with her new husband as Mary A Graham with her birthplace being “Middlesex ?Cove London”
From then on she keeps the name Graham and is down as born London.
The helpful relatives are her mother and 3rd son who help to ensure my conviction that this is the same woman.
It’s just a bit strange.
Does this help in any way?
BW
Yvonne

ps I should add that the parish records for Stanwick Saint John on FindMyPast do not show a convincing baptism for Mary Ann Hodgson. There seem to have been two families with the same name. One with a labourer father and one who was a carpenter/wheelright whomlived longer that Mary Ann’s father.

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