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Sussex / Re: Sussex Men involved in the Charge of the Light Brigade
« on: Monday 19 April 10 05:57 BST (UK)  »
☼ Linser, Pte George (or Thomas), (1589), 4th LD (p 54)[Dutton 52]
Bn in Brixton [of Brides][54-4-20], Devon. Enl 02-01-54 in London at age 20 [54-1-7]. Prior Occ: Groom [54-4-20]. Rode in Charge;  wounded & taken prisoner [54-4-5, 20][CR 38]. Father, John Linser, Surrey Co., Wimbledon Parish [54-4-20]. Medal [202] w/ A [202], B [228], & S [224] Clasps. FN listed as “Thomas” [CR 38].

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Dublin / Re: St Paul's Dublin
« on: Monday 19 April 10 05:44 BST (UK)  »
Just a few facts about Thomas Roberts of the 17th Lancers:

Roberts, Pte Thomas, (377), 17th L
Bn in Kent [56-4-24]. Enl 06-01-31 [56-4-24]. Prior Occ: Servant [56-4-24]. Batman to Ct Sir George Luth [54D-2-5]. At Dep in England all 3 Mstrs [54-2-5]. Inv 12-15-56 at Dublin [56-4-24]. DNE. Not on MRs.

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Devon / Re: DEWDNEY of East Budleigh
« on: Monday 19 April 10 05:36 BST (UK)  »
☼ Dewdney, Pte Walter, (1211), 17th L
Enl 04-05-54 [54D-2-5, 20a]. In Hosp 2nd & 3rd Mstrs [54D-3-5]. Prom 10-01-54 to Cpl [54D-4-4, 5]. Prom 07-01-55 to Sgt [55D-3-3, 4]. To Svc Trps 11-01-55 fr Brighton Depot [55D-4-3]. Joined Regt 11-21-55 [55-4-3]. AA Charge. Not on MRs though served in Crimea.

As you can see, Walter joined the military early in 1854, and had risen to the rank of Sergeant by July 1855; he was sent to the Crimea, but arrived after the fall of Sebastopol, and therefore was not entitled to a Medal or any clasps.

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West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) / Re: Broun/Brown
« on: Monday 19 April 10 05:23 BST (UK)  »
☼ Brown, Farr-Sgt Ebenezer, (358), 17th L (p251)
Enl 1830 or 1831. To Scut 08-08, & fr Scut to England 08-28-55 [55-3-2] Medal [502] w/ S [508] Clasp. Remarks “Restored fr Pte 07-23-54” shown in LW, apply to James Tuffin (806), the arm sgt.  Brown shows as “Farr-Maj as Sgt” or“Farr-Sgt” for all of his time w/ the Svc Trps, the titles apparently being used interchangably.

Amidst all the hieroglyphics, you can see he enlisted c. 1830/31, and would have been near the end of his career during the Crimean war. He did embark for the Crimea, but according to the Musters was sent to Scutari prior to the arrival of the Troops in the Crimea. There are probably some errors in the records, for he shows being awarded a medal for the Crimea and a clasp for Sebastopol.

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Shropshire / Re: KILVERT's of Shropshire
« on: Monday 19 April 10 05:15 BST (UK)  »
Don't know if this helps any, but it is worth a try:

From my book:
☼ Kilvert, Cpl John Ashley, (1513), 11th H (p 142)[Dutton 170]
Bn 09-29-33 in High Ercall, near Shrewsbury. At  sea 2nd  Mstr; at Varna 3rd  Mstr [54-2-5]. Prom 07-09-54 to Cpl vice Guttridge [prom][54-3-4, 5]. Rode in Charge [BCS 1879];  wounded [CR 36] by a musket ball through his right leg;  the ball subsequently wounded his horse but the horse continued to charge.  On meeting the enemy Kilvert sustained a slight saber cut to his head.  On returning to the allied lines, his horse had to be destroyed immediately.  Kilvert was lain in a ditch to wait for an empty ambulance & he was discovered there by an ambulance party after dark nearly frozen to death. Prom 10-26-54 to Sgt vice Jones [killed][54-4-3, 4]. Wounded /  at Scut 2nd  Mstr & in  Hosp at Scut 3rd  Mstr [54-4-3]. Inv fr Scut to England 1st Mstr [55-1-3]. Recruiting at Bath all 3 Mstrs [55D-3-3] thru [56D-1-3]. Medal [390/397] w/ A [390/397], B [406], & S [413] Clasps. Member BCS 1877 & 1879 [GM 39]. Signed Loyal Address of 1887. Att Ann. Dinners in 1892, 1893, 1895, 1899, 1906 & 1910. The only members of the Light Brigade outliving Kilvert were W. H. Pennington & Edwin Hughes. Died 10-17-20 in Wednesbury, Staffordshire. Buried 10-22-1920 in Wood Green Cemetery, West Bromwich, Staffordshire. His sword & medals were bequeathed to the Wednesbury Art Gallery. Kilvert was the model for the wounded soldier depicted on the dust cover of Honour the Light Brigade [KH].
Dutton mentions the 1881 census has him living at No. 1 Hitchen Croft, working as a pawnbroker and running "Croft Pawn Brokers". He was living with his wife and son and an employee. His wife at the time was 48 years of age and born in Wednesbury, Stafford. His son was born in Coventry.


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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Dragoons
« on: Tuesday 16 March 10 04:08 GMT (UK)  »
410 Edward Crickmore was born in Bangay or Bungay; he enlisted 6 July 1831, listing his prior occupation as labourer. He was discharged as "unfit" at Dublin on 26 October 1857.

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Armed Forces / Re: 17th Lancers and gap in Census years
« on: Thursday 11 February 10 22:21 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Linda:

Retirement was much an individual matter; initial enlistments for the cavalry were for 12 years, and many of the men re-enlisted at the end of that time. Conditions of army life (housing, workload, diet) wore men out before their time, so that some relatively young men (late 30s to early 40's or even younger) were 'discharged as useless' based on their inability to fulfill the necessary duties. Men were also allowed to purchase a discharge if they wanted out of the army before the end of their service commitment.

As the movements of the Lancers are not a particular specialty of mine, I had to cheat and look it up, but they do not appear to have spent much time in Ireland around the time of the war. If you want to check out more specifics, go to "Google Book Search", do an "advanced book search", use "17th Lancers" as your search term and do your search for a "full view only." Two of the most authoritative books on the history of the 17th Lancers are available there to download in their entirety as PDF files: Fortescue's "A History of the 17th Lancers" and Parry's "The Death or Glory Boys."
Farrier-Major or Farrier-Sergeant was the NCO in charge of the farriers that tended to the horses to include blacksmith duties.

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Armed Forces / Re: 17th Lancers and gap in Census years
« on: Monday 08 February 10 11:57 GMT (UK)  »
The Musters in question have only ditto marks in each of the three months of the Muster, but what is written above is illegible. I have concluded, because they are shown on the other entries above and below, that they are space markers and indicate his presence with the Service Troops. This is corroborated by later indications where he is sent "to Scutari" . . . what is missing is any indication that he left Varna to rejoin the service troops, but errors and omissions abound depending on the diligence of the person making the entries.

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Armed Forces / Re: Crimea War medal look up request
« on: Sunday 07 February 10 23:17 GMT (UK)  »
No Patrick Caughlin/Coughlin served in the Light Brigade (which includes the 4th Light Dragoons) during the Crimean War . . . nor could I find his name listed with any of the regiments of the Heavy Brigade.


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