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The Common Room / Re: Luke Howard portrait?... or not?
« on: Tuesday 25 March 08 07:07 GMT (UK)  »
Yes that's him. there are a couple of others as well, but I can't find one of when he's older, for comparison.
I would love to see that memoir of Joseph Jewell.
I have to say that the painting gives me goosebumps. It really brings people alive when you see a picture rather than just a name on the tree. I'm sure I can see a family likeness, but that might be wishful thinking!!

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The Common Room / Luke Howard portrait?... or not?
« on: Monday 24 March 08 20:15 GMT (UK)  »
I found a portrait by Joseph Jewell (distant relative) at the Science
museum, (hope this works!)

www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/results.asp?image=10320296&wwwflag=2&imagepos=10

They think it is of Luke Howard, the man who invented the classification of clouds, as it was "aquired with an archive" relating to him. (at the N.A)

Anyway, after ordering a copy I can see (in the top left corner) it say says "Joseph Jewell Ęt 70" which means "at" doesn't it?

I'm hoping it is a self portrait of Joseph, even though he looks rather scary!!!, but if it is, then why did Luke Howard have it??  I know that they were business associates when they were younger and probably went to the same Quaker meetings etc.  I've seen a couple of pictures of Luke when he was younger but can't decide if it's him

any ideas?







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Quaker Family History / Re: Quaker birth records
« on: Monday 24 March 08 11:13 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, thank you dollylee. I did see those threads.

I was just curious really to know if there were any more brothers for my ancestor Joseph Catton (b.1815) I didn't know about.  I know his parents were Samuel Catton and Mary from his marriage certificate and they lived in Plaistow,West Ham. (spelling tends to vary-Cotton/Cattan)
Also I would like to find Samuel and Mary's marriage.

Looks like a trip to the library sometime!

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Quaker Family History / Quaker birth records
« on: Monday 24 March 08 09:18 GMT (UK)  »
While trying unsuccessfully to find a  record on the I.G.I,  I found several of his sisters in a couple of batches (C009793 + C009794) all from the "Society of Friends QM" London/Essex/Kent.   Did they keep separate records for boys and girls and does anyone know why only the girls ones are here?

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Completed Census Requests / Re: Help reading occupation please!
« on: Saturday 22 March 08 17:24 GMT (UK)  »
Yes I guess that makes sense, Thank you

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Completed Census Requests / Help reading occupation please!
« on: Saturday 22 March 08 16:00 GMT (UK)  »
I'm having trouble reading the occupation  (living *******?) on the 1891 census. Could anyone help please.

Name; Joseph Catton, b.1815, Stratford, Essex
Civil Parish; Plumstead (East), London
ED 5
page 6

Thank you.


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Occupation Interests / Re: Map Man, Royal Engineers Maps
« on: Saturday 22 March 08 14:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you,  it's obvious when you know!

Sorry, don't know much about these things but does that mean he was a sort of officer's servant?

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Occupation Interests / Map Man, Royal Engineers Maps
« on: Saturday 22 March 08 13:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me.

I found an ancestor, Joseph Jewell Catton, at Brompton Barracks, Gillingham, Kent in 1851 with, I'm fairly sure, the above occupation.  I've read a bit about it and I assume he was involved in the making of early ordnance survey maps.

Thing is, in 1841 he was a policeman in Woolwich (listed as Cutten) and from 1861 onward he was back as a labourer in the Arsenal, so it doesn't seem like he was particularly skilled. 

Does anyone know what he might have been doing?  helping with surveying and measuring perhaps?

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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: Bizarre 1881 census entry
« on: Monday 17 March 08 20:46 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I'm new to RootsChat, but have been researching my family tree for a while.
  I too found some ancestors in the Hordle Shaker camp; Thomas Todd aged 60 and two of his daughters.  I found his wife Agnes had died in 1877 in Lymington, so I guess she must be one of the ones burried in unmarked graves, now built over by a church hall, which I found rather sad.  He returned to Suffolk and was still an Ag Lab at the age of 82!
 I would like to find out more about this "colourful" episode. I believe it was in the newspapers at the time, does anyone know the dates to look for or have any more information.?
 

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