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The direct line of ancestry has been traced back to an entry in the Old Parish Records of Scotland.
David Weir of this parish (Old Cumnock) and Margaret Hamilton of Kirkconnell gave up
their names for proclamation on the 20th March 1802. Were regularly proclaimed immediately following Sabbath and no objections being offered were married on the 2nd
April 1802.

Unfortunately this record gives us no indication to the identity of David Weir's parents.
This is not an unusual occurrence. This record of the marriage is better than most as some
marriage records only contain a list of names putting forward their names for
proclamation.

Between their marriage date of 1802 and 1823 David and Margaret had six children.
Mary born 15th November 1805. The lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton
John born 7th December 1806. The lawful son of Davie Weir and Margaret Hamilton.
Jane born  26December 1812 lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton Margaret 17th February 1817 lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton
Sarah Weir born  1st February 1819 lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton of Waterside
Ann Weir born  26th May 1823 the lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton

The terminology  "lawful” indicated that the parents were married. If not married the child would be referred to as "natural"

Hi.
I have a gap in family tree concerning James WEIR and Elsie SMITH, and their family. I believe they emigrated to Australia from the UK. They had a son, who I think was also called James. He may have married a lady called Muriel. In the early 1900's James WEIR senior played football for Celtic,  in Scotland, and later was sold to Middlesboro. After his football career I think he ran the Crown Hotel in Middlesboro. This would have been in the 1940s. I think they lived in Redcar at one time.  The details of the last known contact are very vague. The son and his family lived in the Melbourne area and were visited by a relative, Rena. There is a verbal mention of a Donald and a Margaret WEIR. Children perhaps?
Any details gratefully received.

Billy

Hi folks,

Thanks for all your help. He did indeed marry Olivia Adeline LEE, and they were divorced in 1954. Hence he was not mentioned in her obituary. Based on the obituary, I have found offline one of the daughters of Benjamin Frank STUCKEY and exchanged e-mails.

So, a very good outcome. They now have a hitherto unknown cousin in the UK. More importantly, his one remaining brother - very old - at last has some information on what happened  Benjamin Frank.

Especial mention to "Sandra" and "avm88". Magnificent work.  But that's what I find with this hobby, generally we have all had a "brick wall" , and we all help each other towards demolishing it.

Hi,

John WEIR was my uncle.

May I ask what your particular interest stems from?

Bill

Hi,

I am of the David WEIR - Margaret HAMILTON line.

David WEIR married Margaret HAMILTON in 1802. David was the son of James WEIR (born about 1748 at Blackfaulds, Old Cumnock, Ayrshire). He married Jean MITCHELL in about 1770.
David was born on 24 May 1776 at Blackfaulds. James and Jean had about 9 children.

From my narrative:

"David Weir of this parish (Old Cumnock) and Margaret Hamilton of Kirkconnell gave up
their names for proclamation on the 20th March 1802. Were regularly proclaimed immediately following Sabbath and no objections being offered were married on the 2nd
April 1802.
Unfortunately, this record gives us no indication to the identity of David Weir's parents.
This is not an unusual occurrence. This record of the marriage is better than most as some
marriage records only contain a list of names putting forward their names for proclamation..

However, there is a strong possibility that the parents of David Weir were James Weir (born about 1753) and Jean Mitchell (also born about 1753)

James Weir and Jean Mitchell had 9 children;

John Weir, born about 1771
Robert Weir, born about 1773 and possibly who died in 1854
James Weir, born about 1776 and possibly who died in 1849
David Weir, born about 1778, and who married Margaret HAMILTON on 2nd April 1802
Ann Weir, born about 1781 and possibly who died in 1848
William Weir, born about 1786 and possibly who died in 1824
Margaret Weir, born about 1787 and possibly who died in 1857
Thomas Weir, born about 1790 and possibly who died in 1869
Mary Weir, born about 1793 and possibly who died in ?

The line of descendency follows David Weir and Margaret HAMILTON

Between their marriage date of 1802 and 1823, David and Margaret had ten children.
James  Weir, born  BEFORE  24 May 1803  at New Cumnock, Ayr. Christened 24 May 1803, Cumnock, Ayr and died 12 November 1879 at Cumnock, Ayr.
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Mary Weir, born  before 15th November 1805. The lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton

John Weir, born  possibly on 1st September 1806 . He was christened on 7th December 1806. The lawful son of Davie Weir and Margaret Hamilton.

Robert Weir, born before 17 October 1808, the date on which he was christened at Waterhead, New Cumnock, Ayr.
Jane Weir, born before the 26 December l812, the day of her christening,  lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton. Died after 1841

 Alexander Weir, born before 1 July 1814 at  New Cumnock. Died after 1841
Margaret Weir, born 17th February 1817 lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton
Sarah Weir , born 1st February 1819 lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton of Waterside
William Weir, born before 26 May 1821 when he was  christened at Waterhead, New Cumnock, Ayr. Died after 1841
Ann Weir, born 26th May 1823 the lawful daughter of David Weir and Margaret Hamilton

The terminology "lawful” indicated that the parents were married. If not married the child would be referred to as "natural".


Any connection ?

Bill