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Australia / Re: Benjamin Bowater 1862 arrival Aust - convict or free settler?
« on: Saturday 28 February 26 23:34 GMT (UK)  »
There is another Benjamin Bowater who comes up.
Convict records:
Benjamin Bowater, b 1816
Conviction at Warwick Assizes, Stealing From the Person
Arrival: 26 Oct. 1838, Van Diemen's Land, per Coromandel
Death Date   11 Aug. 1875

Marriage:
Benjamin Bowater, Mary Ann Garven
1850/5561, Victoria, Australia

Transcription of gravestone at Melbourne General Cemetery.
In memory of Benjamin BOWATER Native of Birmingham who died 11 Aug 1875, age 62 yrs also Mary Ann the beloved wife of the above died 1 Jun 1884, age 56 yrs.

His will mentions a brother: Daniel Bowater
There's a few mentions of his property ownership in Victoria

So I assume he's the chap travelling for Tasmania to Melbourne.

And I cannot see a relationship with the Benjamin you are searching for.

Judith


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Australia / Re: Benjamin Bowater 1862 arrival Aust - convict or free settler?
« on: Saturday 28 February 26 04:01 GMT (UK)  »
An AI overview, attributed to the ABC, suggests:
Maitland Gaol, Burials - Prisoners who died, were generally buried in the nearby Maitland Cemetery, not within the gaol walls themselves.

However, I couldn't see a record of his burial in Maitland cemetery records online - which may well be incomplete, and I would assume his burial would have been paid for from the 'public purse' so may not have had a separate plot.

Interesting that he arrived in Melbourne, 9 October, 1862, and by 19 October 1862 he is "residing at Wallsend" (newspaper report https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18691391) Sad end.

Judith

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Australia / Re: William and Hannah RICHARDSON, NSW
« on: Thursday 26 February 26 05:56 GMT (UK)  »
Trove has some accounts of his death - he apparently fell from his horse.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/283318820
The Wynyard Times, Tumut, Tuesday 19 March 1861,  - Page 2
This account is reprinted in a number of other publications.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5698538
 The Argus, Melbourne, Vic, Mon 18 Mar 1861

Do you know where his sons were at the time?  It isn't unusual for burials to be on private land.

Also Manus now seems to be listed (on Googlemap anyway!) as Mannus.

Judith

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Australia / Re: Frederick William LEE died 1.5.1903 searching for Will
« on: Sunday 22 February 26 06:21 GMT (UK)  »
Very odd, I agree.

Will be interested to hear how you get on.

Judith

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Australia / Re: Frederick William LEE died 1.5.1903 searching for Will
« on: Sunday 22 February 26 05:02 GMT (UK)  »
Can't see any record of the will either.  Google suggests the following avenues for searching.

To find a New South Wales (NSW) will from 1903, you should look for Probate Packets (NRS 13660) held at the Museums of History NSW (formerly State Records Authority of NSW), as wills from this period are generally considered public records.
NSW Government
NSW Government
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Here is how to locate them:
1. Online Search (Recommended)
Findmypast (NSW Will Books 1800-1952): This subscription site contains copies of wills and is the easiest way to search for documents from 1903.
Ancestry (NSW, Index to Deceased Estate Files, 1859-1958): Use this to find the probate file number, which will help you locate the original document.
State Archives Collection Search: You can search the online catalogue on the Museums of History NSW website to find the item number.
NSW Government
NSW Government
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2. Physical Records (In-Person)
Museums of History NSW (Reading Room): Located at Kingswood, you can view the original Probate Packets (Series 4, which covers c.1890–1976).
NSW Probate Index (1800–1985): Available on microfiche in the Governor Marie Bashir Reading Room.
NSW Government
NSW Government
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3. Alternative Sources
NSW Trustee and Guardian: They may hold the original will if it was not deposited with the Supreme Court.
Supreme Court of NSW: If probate was granted, the Will and associated documents (Probate Packet) are stored at the State Archives.
Newspapers: Check Trove (National Library of Australia) for funeral notices or notices regarding the application for probate, which can provide dates and details.
Supreme Court of NSW
Supreme Court of NSW

However, I'm not seeing the will indexed anywhere.
There is a webinar which may help.
https://mhnsw.au/webinars/probate/

There's also an "Ask an Archivist" service.
https://mhnsw.au/collections/state-archives-collection/ask-an-archivist/

Good luck with it, Judith

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Australia / Re: 1949 Victoria Electoral Record for Richard Morgan SELWOOD
« on: Friday 20 February 26 06:22 GMT (UK)  »
The record of his service with the RAAF is digitised, but with no information after his discharge in 1946.  There's a couple of photos of him, I assume at the time of enlistment.

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx
Go to NameSearch, enter his name and scroll to 'Airforce personnel' records.  Use the spelling SELLWOOD.

Judith

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Australia / Re: NSW Mental Institutions
« on: Thursday 05 February 26 00:32 GMT (UK)  »
This looks like her in 1891 census

11 WellBank, Haslingden, Lancashire
Thomas Swinburn Carr, Head, Married, 53, Cotton manufacturer, b   London, Middlesex, England
Caroline Carr, Wife, Married, 42, b Flintshire, Wales
Mary Rose Jones, niece, age 12, b London

If her father was a marine engineer, as listed on her marriage certificate, he may well have been at sea.
Well Bank was her residence on the marriage certificate

Judith
 

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Australia / Re: NSW Mental Institutions
« on: Wednesday 04 February 26 11:23 GMT (UK)  »
More from TROVE

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123529538
 The Gundagai Times and Tumut, Adelong and Murrumbidgee District Advertiser , Tue 6 Feb 1917 
The death occurred in the Cootamundra Hospital, on Wednesday morning of Dr. Charles Campbell
Baxter-Tyrie, of Harden, the cause of death being pneumonia. ' He was aged 45, and leaves a wife and five children— two sons and three daughters. His eldest son is now studying for the medical profession in Scotland.
The implication is that his wife is alive at this time.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113636025
Buried at Murrumburrah cemetery.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226218522
Government Gazette of the State of New South Wales, Fri 10 Aug 1917
Probate granted to Isabella Macaulay of Harden, sole executrix

Amendment:
I gave this UK electoral information in a previous post, but, in the light of this death and further records the information is for another couple
1921 Electoral Roll, Shoreditch and Stepney
Richard Charles Tyrie
Rose Mary Tyrie

Judith





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Australia / Re: NSW Mental Institutions
« on: Wednesday 04 February 26 07:20 GMT (UK)  »
From TROVE

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/39927885
Cairns Post, 4 March 1913
MRS:. TYRIE'S ILLNESS.
The many friends bf Dr. Baxter Tyrie will be glad to learn that yesterday 'he despatched an urgent telegram, from Sydney, conveying the news that Mrs. Tyrie had passed successfully through an operation,  and was doing well.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/42881683
Cairns Post 20 March 1914
BIRTH
BAXTER TYRIE.—At Abbott-street, Cairns, the wife of Dr. C. C. Baxter Tyrie—a daughter.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/40234583
Cairns Post, 1 Feb 1917
Death of Dr. Tyrie.
Mr. P. J. Doyle received an urgent wire on Wednesday -morning stating that Dr. Tyrie, formerly of' Cairns had died at Cootamundra.

There's many mentions of Dr Tyrie in Cairns but the others I saw didn't seem relevant.

Judith






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