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London and Middlesex / Where did they live?
« on: Thursday 04 October 12 13:33 BST (UK)  »
Is there anyway I can find out whether or not 2 particular families lived close to one another after 1911?

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London and Middlesex / More help needed please....
« on: Thursday 04 October 12 13:26 BST (UK)  »
I'm not sure how much information I can include on here but I think I may have found out more information about Douglas Sandels - the illegitimate son of my husband's grandmother that she had at 14. I posted another thread on here about how it was believed that he went to family to be raised. We also think now that he spent some time in the Army, possibly National Service and may have spent time overseas. My mother-in-law remembers a young man visiting and recovering from malaria and she believes this was Douglas.

She has now spoken to her older sister and she is sure that Douglas went to live with his paternal grandparents and that his father was the son of a family who lived in the same block/tennament as the Sandels family in West Ham. Now the paternal name we believe is Malise or Mulise (pronounced malishe).

Now I think that I may have discovered the family in question - whislt the Sandels family were still living in Sussex in 1911 there was a family living in West Ham with the surname Mellish. This is now where I'm not sure how much information I can post because I don't know if the person is still alive or not but needless to say I've found a marriage record that matches the two names together. However I'm now trying to find a birth record between 1910 and 1932 for the first name and the surname. Could anybody help me try and locate one? If I can't find one then this could be the missing son perhaps. I hope that i haven't infringed any rules by typing the above.

Obviously it's still going to have to wait until the 1921 Census before I can see if I can find a link between the 2 families but at least its a start.

Thanks   

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Census and Resource Discussion / 1911 Census Summary Books record
« on: Thursday 04 October 12 12:43 BST (UK)  »
Not sure if I have posted this in the right place but I've been trying to search a relative in the 1911 Census and it has thrown up something called the 1911 Census Summary Books Record. What is this? All it gives me is a Mr ?, an address and what sort of house/dwelling it is? Which isn't particularly helpful when I don't know a great deal aboout this person. Does this mean that a full census return was not completed for this area?

thank you

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Lincolnshire / Re: Sutton Bridge
« on: Sunday 23 September 12 14:24 BST (UK)  »
Regarding the bridge itself. It was built by the M&GN Railway company, and the maintenance of the bridge which I believe was a swing bridge was carried out by the LNER and subsequently the Eastern Region of British Railways Lincoln and finally Doncaster divisions. The direct responsibility for the maintenance was vested in the workshop staff at Boston, and callouts were rare, once or twice in the 4 years I worked there. However, in the early 1970s there was consternation at Doncaster accounts office when a bill was received from the then Holland County Council (Highways Dept) for work carried out on the bridge. After some 10 years, and two major re-organizations on the railway our responsibility for the bridge had been forgotten, and I was the only person still involved who remembered it. All others  who might have known had moved on in the organization, I was the only one whose promotions had all been local.Sorry for the digression, but hope this might be of interest.

The current bridge is  actually the 3rd bridge which has spanned the River Nene. The first was opened in 1831 and designed by John Rennie the Younger and Thomas Telford. It was replaced in 1850, this time being designed by Robert Stephenson. The current bridge opened in 1897 at a cost of £80,000. Since 1959 it has been a road bridge only.

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Lincolnshire / Re: Sutton Bridge
« on: Sunday 23 September 12 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Hello - I was brought up in Sutton Bridge and my parents still live there. Bridge Road, as it is now known runs from one end of the village to the other and used to be the main A17 trunk road until the by-pass was built in the 1990s.

The school on Bridge Road was built in 1878 and is fairly central in the village. When I was a little girl in the 1970s it was an infant school taking children until the age of 7. It closed as a school in the mid-80s when the infant school merged with the junior school down Anne Road to become a primary school.

My grandfather attended the school when he was a little boy in the early 1900s.

http://www.bridgewatch.org.uk/town-reminiscences.html

This link, if you scroll down gives information on The British School which was in Wharf Street in Sutton Bridge. Apparently this was the boys school and the girls attended a school down Church Street. If you scroll down you will see a photo of the school on Bridge Road in the 1900s.

Hope this helps.

Melanie

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London and Middlesex / Re: Need some help.... UPDATED
« on: Sunday 23 September 12 11:50 BST (UK)  »
Well I can now update this with a little more information that may help with finding Douglas.

I spoke to my mother-in-law yesterday and quizzed her about what she remembered and what her older sister had told her.

Firstly apparently his father was believed to be a boy of a family that lived she thought in the same block of houses/in the same house as Emily and her family when they lived in London. Apparently Emily became extremly friendly with one of the boys of this family. I guess we are going to have to wait until the 1921 Census to find out any details about this as Emily and her family still lived in Sussex in 1911. She believes as I said before that Douglas went to family to be brought up - she thinks that this was Emily's family but is not 100% sure. She's not sure whether he kept the same name but does not believe that he was adopted out so he probably did.

My mother-in-law has recollections when she was a child of a young man coming to visit quite regularly and she believes that this may have been Dougie (the name she uses). She said that he was in the Army - probably doing his National Service as he would not have been old enough to have enlisted during WW2. She also recalls him spending time at their house ill, after contracting malaria whilst overseas.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Need some help....
« on: Monday 17 September 12 18:33 BST (UK)  »
meggiemoo3,
Not sure if you have access to Anc* but if the son retained his birth surname there appear in the telephone index a couple with this name until at least 1984. Their addressess may be a clue as there are others with that surname in area.
Any problems send me a pm
John

Yes we do - thanks for that info - will start looking - there were certainly quite a few Sandles in the family so who knows.

It would seem that apparently he went to grandparents - although we don't know whether that was Herbert and Sarahor whether it was the paternal grandparents - may know more at the weekend.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Need some help....
« on: Monday 17 September 12 17:37 BST (UK)  »
Thanks

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London and Middlesex / Re: Need some help....
« on: Monday 17 September 12 17:12 BST (UK)  »
No I won't but thanks for the reminder.

As far as we know according to my mother-in-law the brother was sent off to live with family members - now I don't know whether this was Emily being sent off to have the baby or it was the baby being sent off.

I need to check the family tree to see whether any of the aunts/uncles of Emily had children that could possibly have been 'Douglas' with another name.

I know that my mother-in-law's older twin sisters were born around 1935 so they may not even have known a great deal about this brother either. One of them wrote a book about their family history during the War and to the present day but there is no mention of a 'brother' or any photgraphs of any either.

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