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Don't know whether it counts but I had a maternal ancestor who as a professional silversmith spent the entirety of WW1 in prison for manufacturing his own two bob pieces on an industrial scale and a paternal third great grandfather transported to Australia in 1817 for banknote forgery.

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Warwickshire / Re: Billesley Hall Farm, Birmingham
« on: Tuesday 20 August 24 12:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank you BushInn1746. I will need some time to work through all that you have provided but it will undoubtely prove interesing. Looks like I will need to reconnect with Birmingham Library, though I've not found their archive to be as readily available as it was before the move.

Alan, I don't think that farm to let advert refers to Billesley Hall Farm. It appears to relate to the nearby Billesley Farm situated off what is now Trittiford Road but was then merely a farm track. I say that because a, it names the farm as Billesley Farm and b, it gives an acreage of 147 whereas Billesley Hall Fram only ever covered 80 acres and c, it  refers to a nearby canal, which does run close to the site of Billesley Farm.

It is interesting that the Greves (Grevis) family were involved with Billesley Hall though I really shouldn't be surprised. They preceded the Taylors as the local bigwigs and had their fingers in every pie in the area. I am surprised though, because everything I've ever known about the area tells me that their prominence had diminshed almost completely by the 1850s.

On Taylor genealogy I will clearly need to do some recapping.

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Warwickshire / Re: Billesley Hall Farm, Birmingham
« on: Monday 19 August 24 21:25 BST (UK)  »
From the 1851 and 1861 census returns George's father Daniel, whose address is given only as Kings Heath is described as a retired farmer, suggesting that he had run the farm before handing it on to George.

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Warwickshire / Re: Billesley Hall Farm, Birmingham
« on: Monday 19 August 24 20:35 BST (UK)  »
The wonders of RootsChat! Thank you all for the information you've provided, it gets me started on a quest I had thought was going nowhere.

John Taylor did indeed own huge swathes of land and buildings in that general area so it's probable that he leased Billesley Hall Farm for many years. He and his family left the UK for South Africa in 1913, when his entire estate was put up for auction. I've owned  a copy of the auction catalogue for several years but haven't consulted it for at least the last ten years. I don't, though, remember it containing any reference to either Billesley Hall Farm or Moseley Golf Club, which suggests that the land had passed out of his ownership some time earlier.

John Taylor was also a founder of Taylor and Lloyd, the banking group which ultimately became Lloyds Bank. His church at Yardley Wood, Christ Church, was completed in 1849 and intended to serve as a chapel of ease to St Edbugha's, Yardley.

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Warwickshire / Billesley Hall Farm, Birmingham
« on: Monday 19 August 24 14:51 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know anything of the history of Billesley Hall Farm, Springfield Road, Moseley, which ceased to function as a farm in 1892 when its land was leased to those who, by 1898, were able to found Moseley Golf Club?

The golf club's history is well documented but I can find no reference to the farm other than those relating to the club.

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Warwickshire / Re: Where was George in 1911?
« on: Wednesday 13 March 24 15:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi folks,

Apologies for my absence, due to a very unpleasant bug which is now receding,

At a quick glace I agree that the King link looks promising. I will need a little time to go through all of your kind responses before offering my final thoughts on that one.

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Warwickshire / Re: Where was George in 1911?
« on: Wednesday 06 March 24 16:55 GMT (UK)  »
I've been away from this for a few hours and so much has since come in that I need to go through known family info to see how much I can confirm.

One thing that does seem to fit, though, is the possibility that Mary divorced Gorge William at some point around 1939, probably as the result of the Married Women's Property Act 1937, before which it was extremely difficult for a woman to obtain a divorce. I say this because I have found evidence of no less than three different addresses for her at different times of that year. According to other Ancestry trees on which she appears she married a Thomas G Cash in Birmingham in 1957, something I can't currently confirm.

Ancestry is reporting problems at the moment, some of which I am experiencing but I'll be back with some answers as soon as possible.

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Warwickshire / Re: Where was George in 1911?
« on: Tuesday 05 March 24 18:48 GMT (UK)  »
Wow, a huge thank you to all respondents. No way when I asked the question did I even begin to suspect that he was my wife's grandmother's brother! WE didn't have him on the tree because we had missed the Hunslett connection.
I had been at this for several days and had reached the point where I couldn't see the wood for the trees.
The amusing part of this and the part that has caused all the interest is that George now appears mon my wife's tree while Mary K Haywood now appears on mine.

Thanks Jen for the possible link to King. I don't have access to the 1921 census but there will be other ways to dig into this.

Regards and sincere thanks to all,

Keith

Regards to all,

Keith

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Warwickshire / Where was George in 1911?
« on: Tuesday 05 March 24 11:53 GMT (UK)  »
 There are many records to prove that George William Morecock (1902-1981) was born, lived and died in Birmingham yet I can't find him on the 1911 census despite having tried every mutation of the name that I can think of. Please can anyone see what I am missing or maybe someone with access to the 1921 census can find him there?
What I'm actually looking for are the names of his parents.

Thanks in anticipation,

Keith

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