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All the information from those who have replied is most helpful. I have a gut feeling that Thomas, James’ eldest child, may have been the person who  identified the body. Of course, I have no way of proving this conclusively. I have been trying to find out more about his backstory ever since I discovered that he committed suicide at the age of thirty in 1909. At the time he was a barman by trade.

Regards

Doddie

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I feel rather foolish. I've had a look at the death certificate. The informant is James' father Thomas Graham. I thought maybe that the person identifying a dead body and the informant indicated on a death death certificate might not necessarily be one and the same. I think the tragic timeline is as follows; James' body was found at 8:40pm on Thursday the 31st of October and then taken to Falkirk Police Mortuary. The body was identified on the evening of Friday the 1st of November. The newspaper report was published on Saturday the 2nd of November. I am not sure when the actual death certificate was issued but the correction statement that accompanies it has two dates at the bottom of it - " Falkirk, 14th November 1895" followed by two names, and "Polmont, 25th November 1895" followed by the name of the registrar. Does this indicate that the death certificate may not have been not issued until between three and three-and-a-half weeks after death. Also, does it mean that it is was accepted that the person who identified the body would also be entered on the death certificate as informant?

Regards

Doddie

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I am, by process of elimination, attempting an educated guess at which family member identified a dead body after a railway accident near Polmont in 1895. Was there any official protocols laid down for this in Scotland? I have a case I am looking at of a man who while drunk decided to walk home along a railway track. He was consequently run over by a train. It states in a newspaper report that the badly mutilated body was, "....removed to the Falkirk Police Mortuary. Last night it  was identified by  a relative....". I realise that it may not necessarily have been his wife or children, but if it was, were there any rules about who was allowed to do this? I do think that the prospect of seeing the terrible state of her husband's body would have been too much for his wife. They had five children - three daughters and two sons. The oldest child was Thomas who was aged sixteen at the time. The other children were, Mary (fifteen), Elizabeth (eight), Margaret (six) and John (four). It does seem that Thomas may have been tasked with the dreadful task of identifying his father's body. I do know that Thomas does seem to have had a very unsettled and troubled adulthood. Maybe this related to what he had to do as a teenager. I am aware of the fact that this is all basically conjecture and that I may receive some very short responses like, "Anybody could", but I thought I would put my query out there anyway.

Regards

Doddie

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Stirlingshire / Elizabeth Frew (m.n. Graham) d. May 1930
« on: Tuesday 10 June 25 07:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I am after some information of a somewhat sensitive nature. I am carrying out some family research for my girlfriend. I have discovered her great aunt Elizabeth Graham married William McLuckie Frew in 1907. Elizabeth died in 1930. At the time she was a patient in Stirling District Asylum (also referred to as Larbert Asylum, as it is on the death certificate). I am just trying to find out when Elizabeth was admitted to the asylum and perhaps a little background information. I fully appreciate that this is very delicate territory. As I understand it, Stirling University holds all the records for Stirling District Asylum and I have also reached out to them to see if they can assist me. I would like to apologise in advance for any upset caused by my post.

Regards

Doddie

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Stirlingshire / Old Post Office Directories covering Avonbridge
« on: Friday 06 June 25 15:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I am after some advice. I am very used to using old Post Office Directories for research, and very helpful they are. Recently I have been trying to find out which district covers the village of Avonbridge. I googled this and I came across some information indicating that directories for the Stirling area would cover Avonbridge, but I couldn't find anything in them. With Avonbridge being only 6.4 miles from Falkirk and 3.8 miles from the larger village of Slamannan, I presumed myself that Avonbridge would be covered by Stirling. Maybe it is Falkirk Post Office Directories that I should be looking at. All advice greatly appreciated.

Regards

Doddie

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Stirlingshire / Re: Pubs in Avonbridge in the early 20th century
« on: Wednesday 04 June 25 19:47 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Alan, you've been very helpful indeed. I appreciate you taking the time.

Regards

Doddie

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Stirlingshire / Re: Pubs in Avonbridge in the early 20th century
« on: Wednesday 04 June 25 17:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Alan, can I just clarify. You don’t think I have marked the correct pub, which is quite possible. However, you also say that it is the only that is consistent with being John Wilson’s one. As my girlfriend’s g. grandfather worked in a pub in Avonbridge owned by John Wilson, wouldn’t that mean it would have been the one marked in blue?

Regards

Doddie

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Stirlingshire / Re: Pubs in Avonbridge in the early 20th century
« on: Wednesday 04 June 25 16:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi, here is the 1910 map. I have highlighted the pub in blue. As far as I can see it is the only pub. Further north I see an 'Inn' marked. Not sure if this refers to an hotel set-up rather than just a pub.

Regards

Doddie

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Stirlingshire / Re: Pubs in Avonbridge in the early 20th century
« on: Wednesday 04 June 25 15:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Alan here is the pub photo I previously mentioned.

Regards

Doddie

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