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Thank you, arthurk. The tip for searching GRO was helpful, as were the tips for the Yorkshire burials site, and checking for the baptisms on the Little London couple.

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Yes, thanks. These appear to be the deaths/burials for the Little London couple.

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Thank you, Ladyhawk.

Yes, the John Waddington, mason/stone cutter, on Sarah's 1814 baptism is my person of interest. I want to confirm his wife's maiden name was Grange, thereby confirming the 6 Sep 1813 marriage is theirs and not for the John and Eliza/Betty Waddington who remained in Leeds.

My couple of interest immigrated to New York City in about 1820. When their youngest daughter died in Manhattan in 1910, she listed her mother's maiden name as Grange.

I want to rule out the possibility that the maiden name of Eliza/Betty Waddington living in Leeds in 1841 & 1851 was Grange.

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Hi.
I want to determine the maiden name of Eliza/Betty, b. abt. 1785, married to John Waddington, b. abt. 1790, coppersmith, of Little London. They appear on the 1841 and 1851 census records. Eliza/Betty was 67 in 1851.

Will a death record for 1855-1865 show her maiden name? Below are my choice of death records - in case you could direct me to another source that would reveal her maiden name.

Elizabeth Waddington Leeds  9b328 p.81 1858 Oct-Nov-Dec
Elizabeth Waddington Leeds  9b243 June 1865 Apr-May-June
Eliza     Waddington Leeds  9b230 p.173 1855
Mary Elizabeth Waddington     Leeds  9b287 p.203 1860

Thanks.
Bonnie

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Europe / Re: Russian or Lithuanian given name: Mooscha?
« on: Saturday 16 April 16 14:07 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for playing Devil's Advocate. It never hurts to have someone review the evidence - or lack of it.
Family history says Moses died on Yom Kippur in a hotel in Hamburg. Yom Kippur in 1896 was September 18, the date of Mooscha's death. He had visited the fair in Nizhny Novgorod and had planned to be gone two months. The fair was held in July; Moses died in September. Family history says, in the absence of family, Moses was buried in a Christian cemetery.
The death record says Mooscha died on September 18 in Hotel Kaiserhof at Bahnhofstrasse 11 in Hamburg. His recent residence was Nizhny Novgorod. His age of 53 years 10 months was approximately Moses's age.
History says he had booked passage on the SS Augusta Victoria, which sailed from Hamburg on the 24th of September. We know it was not unusual to wait up to two weeks in Hamburg to catch a ship.
Family history says Moses's wife in Baltimore went to Hamburg to ensure Moses was buried under proper Jewish customs. She couldn't have arrived in time for his burial. History says Mooscha was buried in a Christian cemetery. The burial record for Mooscha in the Jewish cemetery in Hamburg shows he was buried there 2 November 1896.
His wife, listed as Jenny Rabinowitsch, the correct age, departed Hamburg on 1 November 1896 - destination Baltimore.
Mooscha's memorial at Find a Grave shows he is buried in the Jewish section of Central Cemetery and notes he was from Baltimore and exhumed from Central Cemetery.
All this review of evidence caused me to review an outline scan of Mooscha's tombstone. I see the name Macht shown at the end of Mooscha Rabinowitsch. I don't understand the wording at the bottom of the stone.

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Europe / Re: Russian or Lithuanian given name: Mooscha?
« on: Friday 15 April 16 16:01 BST (UK)  »
In analyzing the mystery of the name Mooscha Rabinowitsch, I have come to the conclusion that it was an assumed name used by Moses Macht, a Jew, when he returned to Russia to conduct business.
In a letter written by Moses's brother to a grandnephew in 1929, the brother stated the name Macht was theirs for many generations.
The only places in which the Rabinowitsch name appears is in the death record and subsequent burial by the Germans in Hamburg. There were no family members present to act as informants when Moses died. I believe the German authorities recorded Moses's identity based upon the identification papers on his person. The death record incorrectly records his religion, the name of his father, and the name of his wife.

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Europe / Re: Russian or Lithuanian given name: Mooscha?
« on: Monday 11 April 16 14:21 BST (UK)  »
Moishe would be reasonable; however, the given name on this Hamburg departure list - left column, not far from top - following "Rabinowitsch" doesn't look like Moishe http://goo.gl/s1yKvX. The Hamburg departure list indexers indexed the name as "Marscha." I think the German clerk who wrote the name would have recognized the Yiddish name Moishe. Maybe Moses pronounced his name "Mose-cha", and that's what is on the departure list.
A Russian speaker might be able to help with this.
Moses married his third wife, Jennie/Ida Heifetz, in Moscow after 1882. I might be able to locate their marriage record - but not on Ancestry, because I've already checked there. I am also going to try to locate the Lithuanian birth record for Moses.

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Europe / Re: Russian or Lithuanian given name: Mooscha?
« on: Monday 11 April 16 12:43 BST (UK)  »
I appreciate your input, Peter.
I have asked someone to translate the German death record. I'm hoping there are clues to help with the name.

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Europe / Re: Russian or Lithuanian given name: Mooscha?
« on: Monday 11 April 16 11:28 BST (UK)  »
There is enough circumstantial evidence in the death record for me to believe "Mooscha" is my person of interest. He died at the right place, at the right time, and after visiting the business fair in Nizhny Novgorod.
I have just never heard the name Mooscha - not that I would have because I've seldom been exposed to Lithuanian/Russian names. The name just seems a little off to me. I'm going to put the name in a family genealogy, and I don't want a made-up name to appear in a report that will be kept for posterity.
Again, thank you for your interest.

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